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amiers 1st August 2008 02:24

BF 109 G10-R6?
 
was there such an aircraft?

ArtieBob 1st August 2008 05:55

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Yes, several hundred were built by Erla beginning in late 1944.

Best Regards,

Artie Bob

Rasmussen 1st August 2008 14:27

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
From November 1944 to April 1945 it were 994 G-10/R6.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

amiers 1st August 2008 14:45

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
thanks guys. would you know if they had the tall tails or short?

veltro 1st August 2008 19:23

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amiers (Post 70258)
thanks guys. would you know if they had the tall tails or short?

Could you please indicate an example of G-10 with "short" tail...?

amiers 2nd August 2008 02:49

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
i thought the tall and short tails were used up till the G14?

Mermet 2nd August 2008 11:35

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtieBob (Post 70239)
Yes, several hundred were built by Erla beginning in late 1944.

Best Regards,

Artie Bob

Hi,

In this case, R6 was the PKS 12 and those G-10/R6 were all weather fighters.

JCM

Eduardo 2nd August 2008 12:05

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
The G-14 had the "tall and short" tail. The G-10 didn´t.The G-10 cames
later then the G-14.

Eduardo.

veltro 2nd August 2008 12:06

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amiers (Post 70313)
i thought the tall and short tails were used up till the G14?

On the G-14, yes, on the G-10, no.

The G-14 was like the continuation of the G-6 (a late G-6 and an early G-14 being almost indistinguishable, apart from the Werke Nummer), whereas the G-10 was a somewhat later and more advanced version, much more close to the K-4 than to the G-14... (even if this is a very rough definition, there being so many nuances with the late Bf 109s...)

amiers 2nd August 2008 15:30

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
thanks guys. i did forget about the G-10 being later than the G-14.:o

George Hopp 3rd August 2008 07:35

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

The G-14 was like the continuation of the G-6 (a late G-6 and an early G-14 being almost indistinguishable, apart from the Werke Nummer),
As I recall, the 109 G-6/R2 was identical to the early G-14. And the first G-14s appeared in the midst of G-6 production serials.

Mermet 3rd August 2008 18:21

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George Hopp (Post 70413)
As I recall, the 109 G-6/R2 was identical to the early G-14. And the first G-14s appeared in the midst of G-6 production serials.

G-6/R2 : was not a recce version of the Bf 109 G-6 ?

Jicéhem

Mermet 3rd August 2008 18:25

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veltro (Post 70270)
Could you please indicate an example of G-10 with "short" tail...?

Hi,

G-10s built by WNF had short-legged tail wheels.
They had too, the large wing bumps due to the larger main wheels.
WNr in the 610xxx to 613xxx range and 770xxx range for G-10/R2s (recce version).

Jicéhem

Mermet 3rd August 2008 18:27

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eduardo (Post 70332)
The G-14 had the "tall and short" tail. The G-10 didn´t.The G-10 cames
later then the G-14.

Eduardo.

Hi,

G-10s built by Messerschmitt (WNr in the 130xxx range, only 135 built) and by Erla-Leipzig has long-legged tailwheels.

Jicéhem

veltro 3rd August 2008 19:09

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Thanks for the info M. Mermet, but we were originally speaking (albeit in a very simplified way) of the tail unit, i.e tail+rudder... the tailwheel was not part of the starting equation, rather another variable.

Also, speaking of the G-10s built by Erla-Leipzig, many of them - especially of the earlier batches - had the short-legged tailwheel (there is plenty of photographic evidence, especially of those delivered to the Italian ANR units)

George Hopp 3rd August 2008 20:09

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

G-6/R2 : was not a recce version of the Bf 109 G-6 ?
You're right, Jicéhem. Sorry about that.

mmoustaf 4th August 2008 12:37

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
The only one G-10 with short tail (i.e. tail unit of G-14) was found in Neubiberg (see Prien and Rodeicke or Japo for yellow 11)

Mermet 4th August 2008 12:52

Re: BF 109 G10-R6?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veltro (Post 70463)
Thanks for the info M. Mermet, but we were originally speaking (albeit in a very simplified way) of the tail unit, i.e tail+rudder... the tailwheel was not part of the starting equation, rather another variable.

Also, speaking of the G-10s built by Erla-Leipzig, many of them - especially of the earlier batches - had the short-legged tailwheel (there is plenty of photographic evidence, especially of those delivered to the Italian ANR units)

Hi,

I'm stupid ! Sorry...

Jicéhem


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