Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

What sort of awards has received Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr his service in USAAF and in USAF?What sort of awards has received Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr his service in USAAF and in USAF?

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When you asked a similar question, didn't he answer so why don't you ask him direct (again?)

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Well he originally posted in the previous thread where you asked him that question;

"I was commissioned as a 2nd Lt on 28 July 1943
I was promoted to 1st Lt. on 5 July 1944
I was promoted to Capt on 28 December 1944

I trust the above is the information you were seeking?

Cordially, Art Fiedler"

You never replied with "no that's not what I'm looking for!", so I guess the thread was finished?

Do you mean what medals did he recieve eg, Silver Star etc, etc?

Try and be a little more clear in what information you require and why, and I'm sure Art will be more than willing to help you out, he really is a top bloke!

Cheers, MP.

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Mr. Zdenek:

I have no idea why you are requesting this information but to help you, here is a short biography of my service time.

Co/. Arthur Charles Fiedler
Colonel Arthur C. Fiedler Jr. who would become an eight-victory ace was born August 1, 1923 in Oak Park, Illinois. In April 1942, he enlisted in the United States Army Air Force as an Aviation Cadet and was awarded his commission and wings on July 28, 1943. He was assigned as a P-47 flight instructor at Dover, Delaware, but in May 1944, he was sent overseas and assigned to the 317th Fighter Squadron of the 325th Fighter Group. The 317th which was then flying P-51B Mustangs was based at Lesina, Italy. Although there were tens of thousands of aerial combat encounters during World War II, one of the most unusual was a dogfight that took place between Fiedler and an unidentified German Me-109 pilot on June 28, 1944. During a previous combat mission on June 24th, Fiedler claimed a probable. Four days later, Fiedler bounced two Me-109s west of Ploesti, Rumania. After 'flaming' the wingman, he took pictures of the wreckage to confirm his victory. As he began climbing to altitude, he was surprised by another Me-109 crossing directly in front of him. Fiedler immediately racked into a vertical bank, opened fire, and scored several hits before all his guns jammed from the heavy G forces. He now found himself sliding into formation with this second Me-109. Uncertain how he could break away without making himself a good target, Fiedler decided in desperation to fire his .45 automatic at the German who was no more than 40 - 45 feet away. He hoped the German would veer away and Fiedler would then break for home. As he drew his gun, the German suddenly jettisoned his canopy and bailed out. Fiedler was nicknamed "Svengali", but since he did not hypnotize any other pilots into bailing out, this was a short-lived thing. In January 1945, he was credited with his eighth and last aerial victory. Fiedler quit the Air Force to obtain a college education but was recalled involuntarily for the Korean conflict and then decided to remain in the Air Force. He attended the Army Command and General Staff College and served in several challenging assignments. One of his most interesting was with the Space Systems Division where he served as the Chief of Launch Vehicle Planning and Maneuverable Spacecraft Divisions. . Between 1966 and 1970, he flew over 1000 C-130 sorties in Viet Nam and retired in 1975 as a Colonel. Fiedler has been awarded the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross with one oak leaf cluster, the Air Medal with 21 oak leaf clusters, the Air Force Commendation medal, the Presidential Unit Citation, a Partisan Star from Yugoslavia, plus numerous other decorations and awards. He and his family retired to Southern California where he enjoys his hobbies and the great weather.

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I have another question for Mr. Fiedler on the P-51B.
When you flew the P-51B in Italy was it called a razorback P-51 or just a P-51B.?
I know it is an odd question but on another forum this is a big question.
Thank you for your time.
Rick Peck

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Mr. Peck,

An interesting question. We flew the P-47 before the P-51 and all our 47's were the razorback variety. When the 47D-25 came out with the bubble canopy, was the first time I heard the term razorback used to describe our P-47s. The P-51B and C models of course could have had the term razorback applied to them also, but I do not ever recall hearing that term associated with the Mustang during my combat days. To the best of my memory, we always referred to a "B or C model" and knew what it pertained to. It was well after the war when mostly nonflying personnel were discussing differences between the B/C and D models that I heard the term used in conjunction with the Mustang. Perhaps others had different experiences but these are mine.

Cordially, Art Fiedler

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Art, as an American who wasn't even born yet (1953), thank you for being there when we needed you.

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Thank you for your reply.
Interesting ,I'm sure you had other thoughts and concerns other than what the P-51B/C was called while you were in combat.
Thank's again.
Regards,Rick Peck

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Hi Mr. Fiedler,

I am interested in US Aces.

Unfortunatelly, i have not found any information about your activities after the 2nd World War in Air Force. Could you do me a favour and tell me which units you were in service (since - from) and also on which air-base you were? Also is it possible to tell me which planes you were flying?

You are the only one (from all contacted aces) who answered my questions about you service in Air Force.

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

There are some basic information that is notoriously knows...like bases of Groups, time era etc. To ask these questions is or wasting time or prove of not very good orientation in subject. Wok on it, google it out;)
check six

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Mr. Zdenek,

Do you have an Email Address? I would prefer to send anything more on this subject to your Email address. By the way, what country are you from?

Cordially, Art Fiedler

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

rpeck350,
This weekend I will be at an aces's symposium with 5 other aces and will put your question to them. Perhaps some had a different experience than I did.
Cordially, Art Fiedler

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I come from the Czech Republic. My email addresses are Z.Kocab@seznam.cz or kocab.zdenek@ktvmb.cz. It would be great help from you to get all the data of each promotions upto their leaving the army (probably the dates of their retairements). Once again thank you for your information

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Although I welcome the sharing of information and to be able to have direct access to veterans is beyond what we can reasonably expect on this forum, but...

As this questioning is going on I keep thinking why all these questions? Just stating interest IMHO just doesn't cut it. Art is of course free to answer anything he likes, but as a host a do not welcome this type of questioning without a good explanation as to why (book project, study etc).

Just a reminder that TOCH! is about sharing information, not just getting information.

Ruy

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Hi Mr. Fiedler,

Richard G. Candelaria his name is Richard or Ricardo?
Barrie S. Davis his real name is Barrie or it might be a nickname of Barry

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Thank you Sir that will be interesting to see what is said.
Also thanks for taking time answering and helping with all are questions.
Have a good time at the Aces symposium.
Regards
Rick Peck

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Hi Mr. Fiedler,

Do you know the exact day of promotion of the following pilots

Richard G. Candelaria to 1st Lt, Capt, Maj, LtCol and also Col (his name is Richard or Ricardo?)
Barrie S. Davis to 1st Lt, Capt, Maj, LtCol and also Col (his real name is Barrie or it might be a nickname of Barry)
Fred F. Ohr to1st Lt, Capt and also Maj (his real name is Fred or it might be a nickname of Frederick)
David C. Wilhelm to 1st Lt and also Capt

All data will be used for my own needs and will not be provided to the third party and not be published.

Cordially Zdenek Kocab

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rpeck350

Re: If P-51s were called razorbacks. At the LA symposium I asked Goebel, Davis, Ohr, Pisanos, and Candelaria if they ever heard that expression used for the P-51. All said, "no".
I presume you know that the P-47D up to at least the -22 were razorbacks. I know the P-47-25 was a bubble canopy as we ferried two of them from North Africa. Now for those discussing the P-47s, since not all P-47D models had the bubble canopy, they used the term razorback to distinguish which model they were talking about.
However, for the P-51, all P-51Ds had bubble canopies and anyone familiar with or operating P-51s knew immediately the difference between the B & C models and the D models so no one had to refer to a razorback to distinguish which bird they were referring to.
I hope that explains why none of us in combat used that term for the
P-51. I also believe after the war or for folks not familiar with the P-51 models, they may have used such a term. Just as I would not know the difference between a B-17D and the B-17E models, I might have had to refer to some characteristic of the one I was talking about.
Cordially, Art Fiedler

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Hi,Thanks for the repley Art ,if I may call you that.
I was not there so I have no say but I always thought that was the case.
Thank you for your time.
Rick

Re: Arthur C. Fiedler, Jr.
 

Hi Mr. Fiedler,

I am interested in US Aces.

Unfortunatelly, i have not found any information about your activities after the 2nd World War in Air Force. Could you do me a favour and tell me which units you were in service (since - from) and also on which air-base you were? Also is it possible to tell me which planes you were flying?

Do you know the exact day of promotion of the following pilots

Richard G. Candelaria to 1st Lt, Capt, Maj, LtCol and also Col (his name is Richard or Ricardo?)
Barrie S. Davis to 1st Lt, Capt, Maj, LtCol and also Col (his real name is Barrie or it might be a nickname of Barry)
Fred F. Ohr to1st Lt, Capt and also Maj (his real name is Fred or it might be a nickname of Frederick)
David C. Wilhelm to 1st Lt and also Capt

All data will be used for my own needs and will not be provided to the third party and not be published.

I come from the Czech Republic. My email addresses are Z.Kocab@seznam.cz or kocab.zdenek@ktvmb.cz.

Cordially Zdenek Kocab