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edwest 25th November 2008 02:07

Photos 11-24
 
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Usual disclaimer,
Ed

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 04:42

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Apparently the sister machine to "Yellow 16" of 12./JG 5 which has been raised from the Norwegian waters!
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-FW-...1%7C240%3A1318

I sincerely hope this photo will end up with the Norwegian team!

Br
Goran

Kari Lumppio 25th November 2008 09:19

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Hello!

Interesting album for the Allied planes this:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=190268493328

The Hurricane photo titled "Eine Spitfire/Athen" - which squadron? Any further details?

The Blenheim IV (B 268) is from Greek AF, yes? Any details for this aircraft?



Kari

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 15:17

Re: Photos 11-24
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370115954942

Note: Sold also 6 June 2008 !
Goran

Dénes Bernád 25th November 2008 15:32

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest (Post 77198)

Sold for 555 USD. Incredible!

markjsheppard 25th November 2008 15:37

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Goran

You beat me to it.

Looks like 'Yellow 15' of 12./JG5.

Another good photo of the emblem that was really unknown until last year when 'Yellow 16' was recovered.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150311579494

Beautiful photo. But who is the pilot - hopefully of 12./JG5.

regards

Mark

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 15:45

Re: Photos 11-24
 
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=400011130691

Reversed image of a well known photo of RAF captured Bf 110 "AX772" !

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 16:25

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Hi,
Compare the below photos and sellers:

Todays M-RT
Seller:
http://myworld.ebay.de/macflly41/

Link
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380084477596

Yesterdays M-RT (Hmmmm...I see Ed has included it here today!)
Seller:
http://myworld.ebay.de/christal109/

Link:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-Bristol-Blenheim-Flugzeug-1940_W0QQitemZ270307372586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMilit aria?hash=item270307372586&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_t rkparms=72%3A1229%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C24 0%3A1318

I have a couple of times noted that photos, which in my opinion most likely come from the same collection, simultaneously appear at auctions from two different sellers. The two photos I use as an example appeared I saw within 24 hours in between. I've noted this phenomena at least five times the last few months.

Are the sellers often offering the photos under different aliases?

Puzzled!:confused:
Goran

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 17:06

Re: Photos 11-24
 
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=220317336979

The emblem reminds me of Aufkl.Kette Lappland, quite a lot but probably not identical. The mountains in the background look very Norwegian in appearance to me.

Armee Oberkommando(AOK) Lappland, or rather the "Kurier Kette Lappland", is mentioned to have had a JU 52 1R+GH and one 1R+ZH but I don't know what their emblem looked like.(Source Barry C. Rosch, Luftwaffe Codes, markings and Units 1939-1945, p.63, 128 and 284.

Not sure which unit........who knows?

Cheers
Goran

RudiS 25th November 2008 17:09

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Many sellers use different member names in Ebay. In this case I'm not 100 % certain, but it sure looks like it :

The first seller added this description :
Quote:

Ich verkaufe ein 100% Originalfoto im Format ca. 5,8 X 8 cm Baryt Rückseite beschriftet. Ohne Klebereste!! Nicht beschädigt Motiv: Foto Flugzeug Bristol Blenheim Luftwaffe RAF Frankreich Bomber. Zustand wie Scan. E-Bay zahle ich und Porto Verpackung der Käufer. Da es sich um einen Privatverkauf handelt übernehme ich keinerlei Garantie. Das Bild ist mit Kopierschutz versehen im Original nicht enthalten. PayPal ist gegen Gebührenerstattung möglich!!!!
the second one this :
Quote:

Ich verkaufe ein 100% Originalfoto im Format ca. 6 X 9 cm Baryt Rückseite beschriftet. Ohne Klebereste!! Nicht beschädigt Motiv: Bristol Blenheim Kennung M * RT Flugzeug Frankreich 1940. Zustand wie Scan. E-Bay zahle ich und Porto Verpackung der Käufer. Da es sich um einen Privatverkauf handelt übernehme ich keinerlei Garantie. E-Bay zahle ich und Porto/Verpackung zahlt der Käufer. Eine Zahlung per PayPal ist möglich gegen Gebührenerstattung möglich!!!!. Ich verschicke weltweit!!! I sell world wide!!!
Looks the same to me.

Kind regards,
Rudi.

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 17:15

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Thanks Rudi!
Yes, looks like it!
Cheers
Goran

F19Gladiator 25th November 2008 17:34

Re: Photos 11-24
 
One of the sellers also have this photo:

http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-2-Motor...1%7C240%3A1318

It is one of the few operational Yak-2s photographed in an awkward position. It differs from the Yak-4 in having the oil coolers still at the chin of the nacelles.
According to "Barbarossa Victims" by T.J. Kopanski; In June 1941 only 12 served in the Western Special Military District and about 80 in the Kiew Special Military District.

Goran

John Manrho 25th November 2008 20:35

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Well finally some Fw 190 pic's again.....it seems it's always Messerschmitt and Messerschmitt......late war is stil a nightmare though.....sigh

John

Kjetil Aakra 26th November 2008 13:34

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Yes, I could hardly believe my eyes when Andreas phoned me and told me about this photo of Yellow 15!

It is odd how something can be unknown for so long, like this emblem, and then suddenly we have solid evidence of tis exitstence on an actual aircraft and an artefact from the war and then also a photo to verify its existence and use!

We are trying to get this photo, of course, let's hope our anti-Sudek13 filters work!

Note how the aircraft seem quite weathered and repainted, apaprently 12. Staffel's Focke-Wulfs had seen some considerable use at this time (late 1943/early 1944). The blakc exhaust area is also very interested.

Also note how the position of the emblem is almost an exact match to Yellow 16, here illlustrated by a profile:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ow16_12JG5.jpg

Best regards,

Kjetil

markjsheppard 26th November 2008 15:57

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Kjetil

It also has the old A-3 engine cooling louvers though it has been reported that often these were replaced (as you say 1943-44) with the A-4 adjustable louvers.

So it seems it was not often the case.

regards

Mark

edwest 26th November 2008 18:48

Re: Photos 11-24
 
Hello Kjetil,



I can't quite make out what the emblem shows. Can you describe it?




Thanks,
Ed

F19Gladiator 4th December 2008 16:24

Re: Photos 11-24
 
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-FW-...1%7C240%3A1318

The JG 5 Fw 190 went for Euro 185. Who scored? Norway?

????????

Goran

bn785371 4th December 2008 20:34

Re: Photos 11-24
 
SUDEK13


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