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88jimmeyer 18th December 2008 20:43

information on intercepted bombing mission
 
Hi everyone, my name is Jim Meyer, I have been redirected to this web site for the information that I am seeking. I am looking for information on actions taking by a ME-109 on 43/01/14. My uncle 2lt. Louis F. Meyer was flying a P-38, escorting a flight of bombers over Sousse and Sfax Tunisia. My uncle was shot down and the crash site and remains have never been found. The information that I request is the approximate location of when the ME-109’s intercepted the bomber formation and an approximate location of when the ME-109 intercepted my uncles P-38. I will attach the mission report for that day. Any information, no matter how little it may be, will be a big help for me in trying to recover my uncle
Thanks to all who reply.
Jim Meyer

John Beaman 18th December 2008 21:36

Re: information on itercepted bombing mission
 
Are you sure about the date? Or that it was Bf 109s? The only P-38 claim we have for that day is by a Fw 190 from JG 2. None of the 109 units claimed a P-38. It would be hard, even for Luftwaffe pilots who were notoriously bad on a/c identification, to mistake a P-38 for a P-40 or Spitfire. Perhaps the mistake is in the ID'ing of 109s versus 190s?

88jimmeyer 18th December 2008 23:09

Re: information on itercepted bombing mission
 
John Beaman

acording to the two mission reports i have, the reports state a Me-109( it was a joint operation with th 27TH FG). I tryed to down load the reports but i can do it for some reason. how can i down load the reports for your viewing.

John Beaman 18th December 2008 23:32

Re: information on itercepted bombing mission
 
please do so, to jrbeaman@triad.rr.com

88jimmeyer 19th December 2008 02:03

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
I have emailed you the reports. thanks.

Franek Grabowski 19th December 2008 02:27

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
C.202 perhaps?

88jimmeyer 19th December 2008 03:40

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
Franek

I don't understand by what you mean by C.202. Could you fill me in more please.

Thanks
Jim

88jimmeyer 19th December 2008 03:56

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
I apologize, on you post it says, C.202 perhaps?

mhuxt 19th December 2008 05:14

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
It's an Italian fighter aircraft, Jim.

88jimmeyer 19th December 2008 05:47

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
Thanks for the translation of C.202

NickM 19th December 2008 06:46

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 88jimmeyer (Post 78584)
Thanks for the translation of C.202

Yes...The Macchi C202 was equipped with a German inline engine so it could be possible that it could be mistaken for an ME109--especially in the middle of a chaotic dogfight.

nickm

88jimmeyer 19th December 2008 08:42

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
I just looked it up on the internet. I can see how the Macchi can be mistaken for the ME-109.

John Beaman 19th December 2008 16:19

Re: possible MC 202?
 
It may be that Franek has something about the MC 202. I looked at, Fighters Over Tunisia. On 14-Jan-43 the authors write of the action and specifically mention Lt. Meyer. They speculate that it may not have been a 109 as reported by the squadron, but MC 202s, one of which claimed a P-38 in the early PM which was seen to crash in the Makassy-Mezzouna area exploring on contact. An MC 202 can look very much like a 109 when in combat.

Do any of our Italian researchers have some information?

88jimmeyer 19th December 2008 18:12

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
Thanks John this is great. This adds more work to my investigation, Hope something turns up.

88jimmeyer 20th December 2008 20:38

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
John

I went to order the book Fighters over Tunisia and the cost is more then a days wage, "Wow". I'm wondering if you can scan some material and email them to me. The material will be used for the search and with a little luck, a recovery. If you are will ing to do the, please let me know.

NickM 22nd December 2008 02:41

Re: information on intercepted bombing mission
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 88jimmeyer (Post 78658)
John

I went to order the book Fighters over Tunisia and the cost is more then a days wage, "Wow". I'm wondering if you can scan some material and email them to me. The material will be used for the search and with a little luck, a recovery. If you are will ing to do the, please let me know.

88jimmeyer: IF you aren't pressed for time, you could order FoT via an interlibrary loan...over the years I've gotten it several times that way


nm

88jimmeyer 22nd December 2008 06:32

Re: information on itercepted bombing mission
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Beaman (Post 78560)
Are you sure about the date? Or that it was Bf 109s? The only P-38 claim we have for that day is by a Fw 190 from JG 2. None of the 109 units claimed a P-38. It would be hard, even for Luftwaffe pilots who were notoriously bad on a/c identification, to mistake a P-38 for a P-40 or Spitfire. Perhaps the mistake is in the ID'ing of 109s versus 190s?

i would like a copy of this document if possible, if there is one. I am trying to keep a record of all possible leads. I spoke with a represenitive with DPMO and we have opened a file. He said any information that i find to let them know and they can put it with the records that they already have and don't have. I'm sure we all know how the U.S. goverment can be quick on there feet.


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