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Andy Saunders 5th January 2009 13:16

Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
I have a Spitfire crash near Belgar, New Romney, on 24 October 1941.

Can anyone provide a definitive identity?

I have no further details.

Franek Grabowski 5th January 2009 13:59

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Fiedorczuk of 315 Sqn perhaps?

Andy Saunders 5th January 2009 15:09

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Yes, I did wonder about that as a possibility Franek. He has to be a contender although without consulting 315's ORB I am not sure where he got his Spitfire down that day. Wojtek....can you answer that query?

Franek Grabowski 5th January 2009 15:18

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
I am not sure if ORB has that info. 315 was in combat over Gravelines, so I think New Romney is on the way back to Northolt.

FalkeEins 5th January 2009 15:38

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Saunders (Post 79273)
I have a Spitfire crash near Belgar, New Romney, on 24 October 1941..

can't help ..but Belgar is Tenterden rather than New Romney

Andy Saunders 5th January 2009 16:50

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
I think there are two or three "Belgars" in Kent.

There is certainly one at New Romney, SSW of the town, and just to the north of Lydd Airport. Map Ref (OS) : 059229

Peter S 5th January 2009 17:58

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski (Post 79282)
I am not sure if ORB has that info. 315 was in combat over Gravelines, so I think New Romney is on the way back to Northolt.

Yes, there is nothing about crash location in 315 Sqn ORB. Anyway if it may be some kind of help:
"One of our aircraft was hit by cannon shell in cockipit. Pilot was seriously wounded but fortunately was able to fly to England where he crash landed as a result of engine failure"
Regards

Peter S 5th January 2009 18:10

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
... it was Spitfire W3761 as ORB states

Chris Goss 5th January 2009 18:19

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Northolt's diary says Fiedorczuk was wounded but ac repairable. The AHB Cas Cards might give a clue as to location if you would like me to check?

Andy Saunders 5th January 2009 21:36

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Yes, Chris, if you can get a location from the cascard that would help.

Chris Goss 6th January 2009 11:00

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Andy: Sorry but all the Cas Card says is wounded in W3761 Kent 1515 hrs 24 Oct 41 and taken to Hawkinge Medical Centre

Peter S 6th January 2009 18:59

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 79291)
Northolt's diary says Fiedorczuk was wounded but ac repairable. The AHB Cas Cards might give a clue as to location if you would like me to check?

Andy, Chris
I've checked 315 Squadron's Diary (PISM LOT.A.V.53/3A) but also there is nothing about the place where Fiedorczuk's plane crashed. A bit about circumstances such as when, where and how plane was hit and Fiedorczuk wasn't able to baile out bacause canopy was stuck. Aparently he had slightly similar situation three days before.
Of course there is a few 315 members still alive (pilots and ground crew) but don't think they can remember that very acurately.

VoyTech 7th January 2009 13:55

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
That afternoon F/O Lukaszewicz flew No. 315 Sqn Magister "To Hawkinge and back". This must have had something to do with the incident, so perhaps it's worth looking into RAF Station Hawkinge ORB.

Franek Grabowski 7th January 2009 14:31

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
BTW
I would not tell, there are many 315 pilots with us. I know of two, and talked with one before the Christmas. I can call him again, but as noted, I doubt if he would ever know such details as a location of Fiedorczuk's crash.

Peter S 7th January 2009 15:15

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Franek
Kornicki, Zajac or Jaworski?
Ground crew: Kawa or Skrzypczak. I'll see Skrzypczak shortly so I can ask.

Franek Grabowski 7th January 2009 15:41

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
I have forgotten Kornicki, sorry.

Andy Saunders 7th January 2009 18:57

Re: Spitfire loss at New Romney, Kent - 24 October 1941
 
Thank you for the input, everyone!

I suspect that the Belgar crash was Fiedorckzuk and that he was then taken to Hawkinge which is not TOO far away. One can then surmise that Lukaszewicz then flew down to Hawkinge in the Maggie to collect him.

Unfortunately, all assumptions. No hard facts!


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