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hi byron,

nice pages! have you more?

all the best
jim

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hi Jim, I`m glad you like them,

I`ll be placing similar ones every now and then

regards

Byron

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Some fresh news again (if any one has names of the lost crews please go ahead)

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27.5.42
6./KG 100
Ziel Fuka, Notwasserung
FF Uffz Leopold Schneider Gefangenschaft
Bo Uffz Karl Jansen vermisst
Bf Obltn Werner Braun Gefangenschaft
Bs Ogfr Albert Göhner vermisst
Bs Ogfr Heinrich Rose Gefallen

Source: Balke, Kampfgeschwader 100 "Wiking".

Jaap

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Thanks Jaap,

very useful information

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...other news

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some new infos.
Can anyone contribute more, crews etc?

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Hi, Byron

Here is some data for you:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=135286

Regards.
Andreas B

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Thanks Andreas,

but this code Nr. LJ+BB is surprising me.
It`s maybe L1+BB from Stab I./L.G. 1, or?

regards

Byron

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Yes, most likely L1+BB (i.e. Stab.I/LG 1). The Stkz. (code) was quite different but 2. Staffeln was within I Gruppe so no real difference.

Thanks Byon, keep posting these.

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An accident happened at 01.06.43 in Marathon near Athens, a Ju 88 crashed.
Two members of the crew were Herbert Meyer and Friedel .........(?)

The discribtion from the Flugbuch is as follows:

Flugübung zum Bombenwerfen, Start Kalamaki 07.36 h, abgestürzt da beim Abfangen Heck abgebrochen.

It has to be a plane of 1. St./Erg.Gr.St.G. 3 but not for sure
does the Werk-Nr. tells us anything more? Names, unit, code?

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Erst.STG3 Marathon TM JU87D-1 2534 100

Wiecker friedel uffz f
Meyer herbert uffz bf

Both killed

Remi

Beautiful pictures

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Thanks Remi

is the unit 1. Staffel der Ergänzungsgruppe /St.G. 3 ? Can you clear that?

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Remi,

I just found in the list of cemetery Rapendoza the grave of FF. Uffz. Friedrich Wieker. Thanks again

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Name is Ergänzung Staffel , so I suppose just one in strength , so no number

Remi

I try to make my best to deliver the first 3 months of 1943 soon

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Thanks again

take a look in your email

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more news

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Hi, Byron.

Been to busy to follow up the past few days, large release on a system at work tonight.

Here is the loss record as also mentioned by Remi:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=131652

Is it possible for you to send me scans of the photographs so that I can attach them to the loss record

Regards,
Andreas B

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Hi Andreas,

you will get them per mail.

Byron

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Hi, Byron

With regards to the unit designation I have found the answer. In the Vortrag zum Einsatzbereitschaft der fliegenden Verbänden Stand: 10.5.1943 it is stated that the Stab Sturzkampfgeschwader 151 is to be formed in Agram under the command of Luftwaffenstab Kroatien. In addition, EFFECTIVE FROM 1.6.43 (in German ... mit Wirkung vom 1.6.43 ...), the Ergänzungsstaffeln of Sturzkampfgeschwader 1, 2, 3, 5, and 77 is renamed and reformed into I., II., III., IV. and V./Sturzkampfgeschwader 151, each with a Gruppenstab, 1. and 2. Staffel.

This was thus the last loss registered under the old unit designation, in fact happening on the day the unit changed designation, and could have been I guess reported with both designations.

This means that the information on Michael Holms page along with the source for your information should be updated, and that the renaming and reforming dates for these units changed to 1.6.43.

Regards,
Andreas B

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Thanks Andreas,

everything is clear now. It`s a strange coincidence the death of the two airmen at 01.06.43, the very day of the unit change.
They are actually recorded belonging to the Ergänzungsstaffel of the St.G. 3

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I `ll put an other subject concerning Stab./St.G. 3 (according to the Fp.Nr.)

the following two pics are from a "Flugbuch" of that unit.

Can anyone give an info about "Staffelführer Ltn. Walter" and the other guy "Oberleutnant and Staffelführer .......", whoes name I can`t read ?

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some every day reports of the war diary

More infos about the planes, crews, units e.t.c are as allways wellcome

regards

byron

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hi byron,

allways interesting to see, what happened in greece!

thanks for showing
jim

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Hi Jim and thank you,

...but it would be more fun if more people would contribute to my threads. I think, everyone would benefit then a lot more.

with best regards

byron

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On the following documents one can see some accidents of the 6th Staffel/KG 26.

Verluste 27.01.42 (Meldung Luftgaukommando Südost)
(1H+EP) Aufschlagbrand Iraklion (100%)
(IH+FP) Kreta notgewassert, kein Personenschaden
(IH+AP) Bruchlandung Iraklion (100%), kein Personenschaden
(IH+BP) Bruchlandung Tatura (60%), kein Personenschaden

Is there any info about the crews of these planes avaliable?

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some reports about Lehrgeschwader 1

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Losses of K.G. z.b.V. 1 in January 1942

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Evening Byron,
with regard to the Heinkel 111's you refer to on 27.1.42 from 6/KG26,
I have not been able to locate within the GQM6 lists.

I do however have two incidents on 26.1.42 both a/c being from 6/KG26 suffering fatal damage.
These are as follows:

He111H-6 W.Nr 4433 1H+? P
Crashed nr Heraklion 100%
5 crew all killed.
Pilot Oblt Karl-Heinz Bock.

He111H-5 W.Nr 3874 1H+?P
Aircraft accidently struck the ground and crashed nr Fl.Pl. Heraklion 100%
3 crew killed, 1 wounded.
Pilot Lt Horst Simon.

Perhaps 1 of these losses is 1H+AP?

Many thanks for bringing these reports to our attention, they are most interesting!
Best regs,
Steve.

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Hello Steve,

Yes, I have them too

FF. Oblt. Karl-Heinz Bock mit BO. Ofw. Herbert Schütz, BF. Uffz. Horst Brückner, BM. Fw. Hans Katen, BS. Gfr. Willi Wittig, alle (+) 26.01.42 Iraklion


FF. Ltn. Horst Simon (+) mit BO. Ogfr. Jahann Krause (vw.), BF. Ogfr. Walter Hermann (+),BM. Ogfr. Willi Bormann, 26.01.42 Iraklion


Obviously there is something wrong with the date in the war diary, it must be the 26th.
At least we have now the codes

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Hi friends,

I found this report about Aufklärungsgruppe (F) 2./123

BF. Uffz. Heinz Schmiedel (4U+7K, W.Nr. 430824) (+) 27.07.43 bei Kastelli,


Doe`s anyone know the rest of the crew?

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Thanks for your reply Byron, is it possible to distinguish which code is relevant to each incident?
Does anybody have any other information that may identify these two a/c to the codes provided by Byron?

Best regs,
Steve.

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Hi Steve,

Here two more planes same unit where more infos are needed

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K.G. 606 and K.G. 806

Praesens in Greece 25.07.42-30.08.42
didn`t know til now anything about that

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2./F 123



FF. ?? Ju 88 A-5 (4U+IK, W.Nr. 880441), BO. Ltn. Eduard Gessler, BF. Ofw. Georg Kolbe, BM. Uffz.Johann Fröhle, BM. Ogfr. Josef Hofbauer , alle (v.) 12.10.41,



Any Info about the pilots name? cause and place where the plane was lost?

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some news about Transportstaffeln

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I found in NET the followig beautiful pic of an Ar 196, from

2./ Aufklärungsgruppe 125 (See)

This unit was06.01.42-07.42 in Skaramanga, then 07.42-07.43 in Suda, later became 4./126

Question:

Is that pic from Skaramanga? I dont think that Suda used cranes like them.
What du you think?

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Hello Byron,

I found the same foto in the net some time ago and there was a comment that it was shot in Norway.
By the way,i am researching in the field of greek aviation history.Do you have any info about mycenae airfield near Argos?(Not Argos airfield)
Thank you

regards.

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Hello Aviator,

That Arado 196 with the Code 7R+BK belonged obviously to 2./125. This unit, as far as I know, has never been in Norway
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/aufkl125.html

I think , I`ll know tomorrow if that place is Skaramanga (as I believe) or somewhere else.

About your second question, as far as I can tell, there was no airfield in Mycenae. Mycenae is some 10 Km. outside of Argos, the same distance its airfield as well.
I have a list with all the existing airfields (Fliegerhorst Kommandanturen) in Greece used by the Germans, my sources are the war diaries; not one is mentioning an airfield in Mycenae.
Do you have any document that can verify the existence of this Fl.H.Kdtr ?
It would interest me

best regards

Byron