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Kuno22 15th January 2009 22:19

Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Colleagues;

I am looking for information / confirmation about two shot down resp. damaged Beaufighters. Damage by MG fire from the oasis of GIALO (Jalo).

Would not insist on Beaufighters. Could also be Blenheim etc.

Have checked the book "Bomber Losses in Middle East and Med" - nothing mentioned there for this period.

Planes were not bombing but only strafing - fighters? Or bombers which had their load already dropped.

Would be glad to get some light into this story...

Brian 16th January 2009 01:39

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Hi Kuno

I note that a 272 Squadron Beaufighter crewed by F/O Gee and Sgt Gill failed to return from an attack on Gialo on 5 April 1942.

I will endeavour to find more information.

Cheers
Brian

rafcommands 16th January 2009 08:34

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Failed to return from an attack on Gialo aerodrome. Made three attacks, destroying an unidentified aircraft on the ground. Last seen after the third run by a Maryland who then lost sight of the Beaufighter but then immedatiely saw an aircraft burning on the ground.

No serial for aircraft but coded K and took off from LG.05 at 12:05 hrs.

Regards
Ross

Kuno22 16th January 2009 10:14

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Oh; that was quick. The capter in the text I was rfering to mentions Easter Sunday 1942 - which was actually the 5th. April!

The plane they attacked was a German Ju.52 on the ground.

He mentions two A/C. One crashed down the other was able to land in the desert. Crew went POW.

Could you tell me, where you have your information from?

Chris Goss 16th January 2009 11:12

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Fg Off George M Gee & Sgt John B Gill were both taken POW; ac was apparently T4839

rafcommands 16th January 2009 11:18

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Cheers Chris,

I had T4839 lost on the same day from No.252 Sqn but no crew or further details.

Looks like No.272 borrowed it for the mission.

This make the full code BT-K.

Kuno
Information from squadron ORBs.

Regards
Ross

Kuno22 16th January 2009 13:05

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Just an hour ago I found another account to the same incident: "Gebirgsjäger in Libyens Wüste", Werner Kost, SV.288: It happened on 5th April 1942. A Ju.52 brought in supplies when they saw enemy recce planes around noon time. The planes attacket the Ju.52 on the ground. The Gebirgsjäger platoon went into position around the area and shot back with MG and other infantry weapon they had. Ju.52 went ablaze but they could see that teach of he withdrawing enemy planes had a smoketail. German losses were a crew member of the Ju.52, the second in command of the Gebirgsjäger, Fw. Dussler and another one seriously injured.

Kuno22 27th February 2010 20:03

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafcommands (Post 79846)
Information from squadron ORBs.

Sorry for asking a silly question - what is an "ORB"?

Kuno22 1st April 2010 14:25

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
I guess I have asked a very stupid question - but honestly; I don't know what an 'ORB' is. Could anybody tell me please?

Henk Welting 1st April 2010 15:06

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Operational Record Book

Kuno22 1st April 2010 15:31

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Oh! Tanks a lot, Henk.

Kuno22 4th June 2010 21:55

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
272 Squadron RAF
I am looking for somebody who could provide me with a photograph of a Bristol Beaufighter belonging to 272 Squadron RAF. It should show an airplane in te colour and markings as it was used by that particular squadron in April 194 when it was based inNorth Africa.

The photo is thought to be used in a publication.

Kuno22 5th June 2010 19:39

Re: Libya / A/C Losses in April - May 1942
 
Ok. Found some nice pics at the IWM and bought them. Subject closed so far.


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