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paulmcmillan 16th January 2009 11:31

213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
According to Aircraft of the Few by Micheal Bowyer, Hurricane P5202 of 213 Sqn (Tangmere) had a FB02 incident (Battle damage requiring contractors attention) on 5/11/1940.

I have looked at BoB Forgotten Months and FC War Diaries and I CANNOT find 213 Sqn in action that day.. I do not suppose anyone can provide a pilot for this incident to this aircraft? I assume that the date MAY refer to date it had attention not the incident itself

Any if anyone had a full record for this aircraft

ex 213 Sqn, 247 Sqn, 56 OTU, 287 Sqn and India to Ground Instructional Airframe Oct 1944 I would be very interested in it!

Many Thanks

Paul

Chris Goss 16th January 2009 11:37

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Seem to remember looking at this and Andy Saunders might be able to help but 213 Sqn was dreadful at completing their F540 in the BofB so don't hold your breath

Andy Saunders 16th January 2009 11:49

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
As Chris says, 213 ORB's are terrible.

However, I can tell you that Sgt H A Adair suffered some kind of landing incident at Tangmere on 5 November 1940. He was killed in action the following day. My file is not to hand to check if this was his aeroplane, but fairly sure it was. I will try to look it out and come back to confirm for you.

Hope this helps.

paulmcmillan 16th January 2009 12:01

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Andy/Chris

Thanks

Paul

paulmcmillan 16th January 2009 23:24

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Wynn in Men of Battle of Britain days Adair had a night landing accident on the 5th November 1940, the day before he died. So looks likely to be in P5202 !

Chris Goss 17th January 2009 09:46

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
I would never assume anything with 213 Sqn-battle damage is recorded on the F78 and according to Andy Adair suffered a landing accident?

paulmcmillan 18th January 2009 13:42

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Chris

I will look in Aircraft of the Few for any othe 'incidents' on the date in question. But I note both FC War Diaries and BoB Forgotten Months both do not explicity state 213 engaged in combat on that date.

Paul

Andy Saunders 25th January 2009 14:53

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
According to the ORB Red Section (two aircraft) comprising Sqn Ldr McDonald and Sgt Adair in aircraft "E" and "K" respectively patrolled base at Angels 10 from 1745 to 1815.

There is no indication of any contact with the enemy. No mention in the ORB Summary of Events of Sgt Adair's landing mishap.

paulmcmillan 26th January 2009 14:55

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Andy

I am getting warming to the idea that Adair
was on P5202 on 5/11/1940 and the " FB02 incident (Battle damage requiring contractors attention) " was due to being on Operational Flight and mis-classified

Thanks

Paul

Andy Saunders 26th January 2009 18:21

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Paul

I need to delve further as I cannot locate my original notes (yet!) which I made on aircrcraft accident cards at the AHB when they were in Old Scotland Yard.

I am certain that I linked Adair to a specific aircraft number on 5 November from the accident cards and am pretty certain that I included that detail in an article I wrote for "FlyPast" eons ago relating to Adair. If you can find that article then you might discover the currently elusive number!

paulmcmillan 26th January 2009 18:34

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Andy


Thanks again - If you have any idea of a time line for the Adair article I will ask on the Flypast forum if ANYONE has a copy from around then and could locate it!!

Regards

Paul

paulmcmillan 26th January 2009 18:38

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Google is your friend!

http://www.aeroknow.com/magazines/flypast.htm

FlyPast #38 Sep 1984

Hubert Adair (Eng Hurri pi) war action bio PA

Andy Saunders 26th January 2009 21:39

Re: 213 Sqn 5th 11 1940
 
Glad you found it!

If you find/see a copy of the article let me know.

The FlyPast Forum might be the place to ask. Better you than me....will sound a bit like J R Hartley asking for "Fly-Fishing" ! (THat's a reference that will only be understood by UK forum members over a certain age, I suspect)


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