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cpaige5@hotmail.com 18th January 2009 02:27

Luftwaffe generals sons
 
I was reading a mag about W v Richthofen. In the article it mentions that his son was in the Luftwaffe during the war and was KIA. Any one know the details? I was also wondering if any other Luftwaffe generals or higher party ups had their sons in the Luftwaffe?

Doug Stankey 18th January 2009 05:56

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As far as sons of Wolfram Richtofen are concerned, I do not know if he had had any, let alone in the Luftwaffe but possibly one or more of these could be sons of his:

RICHTHOFEN, Heinz, Freiherr von. (DOB: 10.05.98). 01.09.42 promo to Obstlt.(Wm.).
RICHTHOFEN, Johannes, Freiherr von. 26.07.41 Hptm. and Staka 6./ZG 26, KIA – in Bf 110 E-2 shot down in the Lake Ilmen area.
RICHTHOFEN, Wolfgang, Freiherr von. (DOB: 29.11.10). 1937 Hptm., appt Staka 8./KG 157 (to 00.38). 01.04.39 Hptm., appt Staka 6./KG 27 (to 13.09.39 KIA).

As for sons of other “higher ups” in the Luftwaffe, it appears that Göring had a couple of nephews in it. One was:

GÖRING, Hans-Joachim. 11.07.40 Oblt., 9./ZG 76 KIA shot down by Hurricanes crashed and exploded on impact with cliffs at Verne near Portland with such force that no remains were ever found. – was Herman Göring’s nephew. 01.06.41 promo to Hptm.


As for sons of other generals, I am not going to go through looking at all 730 Generals to find out. On the other hand, if someone has specific requests I shall look into it.


DGS.

kennethklee 18th January 2009 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Stankey (Post 79927)
As far as sons of Wolfram Richtofen are concerned, I do not know if he had had any, let alone in the Luftwaffe but possibly one or more of these could be sons of his:

RICHTHOFEN, Heinz, Freiherr von. (DOB: 10.05.98). 01.09.42 promo to Obstlt.(Wm.).
RICHTHOFEN, Johannes, Freiherr von. 26.07.41 Hptm. and Staka 6./ZG 26, KIA – in Bf 110 E-2 shot down in the Lake Ilmen area.
RICHTHOFEN, Wolfgang, Freiherr von. (DOB: 29.11.10). 1937 Hptm., appt Staka 8./KG 157 (to 00.38). 01.04.39 Hptm., appt Staka 6./KG 27 (to 13.09.39 KIA).

As for sons of other “higher ups” in the Luftwaffe, it appears that Göring had a couple of nephews in it. One was:

GÖRING, Hans-Joachim. 11.07.40 Oblt., 9./ZG 76 KIA shot down by Hurricanes crashed and exploded on impact with cliffs at Verne near Portland with such force that no remains were ever found. – was Herman Göring’s nephew. 01.06.41 promo to Hptm.


As for sons of other generals, I am not going to go through looking at all 730 Generals to find out. On the other hand, if someone has specific requests I shall look into it.


DGS.

In either his Top Guns book or the JG 26 War Dairy series, Donald Caldwell mentions a Peter Goring as a nephew of the Reichsmarschall and who was KIA flying with JG 26; IIRC, Peter Goring was hit by return fire from Blenheims.

I also saw a photo of Hubert Greim, the son of Luftwaffe Generalfeldmarschall Robert von Greim (also a WWI fighter ace who won the Pour le Merite), in Holger Nauroth's JG 2 Richthofen A Photographic History. IIRC, as a JG 2 fighter pilot, he was shot down and spent the rest of WWII as a prisoner.

John Manrho 18th January 2009 11:28

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The son of General Student was killed as pilot of JG 77 during Market Garden.

Cheers,

John

Brian Bines 18th January 2009 12:03

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I believe Ohfr. Ruthardt von Richthofen of 10/JG2 (Fw 190A8 730909) shot down on 13-7-44 by Argentan was a nephew of the Red Baron. Another researcher said he bailed out but was killed by French Civilians and was buried in a field grave, whether this was a local myth or not I do not know.

yogybär 18th January 2009 17:16

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Some other relative of Wolfram v. Richthofen was pilot in II./SG2 and died in summer 1944 in Romania, don't have the details here right know.

Another "relative" was Nicolas J., a nephew of Jeschonnek, who served as a fighter pilot in JG52 and died in August 1943 during a soviet bobing raid on Anapa.

kalender1973 18th January 2009 22:41

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I assume the son of General Hans Jeschonnek Nikolaus was killed on 05.08.43 with JG52. Maybe it was one point for the Jeschonnek suicide?

Andreas Brekken 19th January 2009 12:45

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Hi.

Horst Carganico, son of General der Flieger Viktor Carganico. KIA May 27th 1944, I./JG 5.

Regards,
Andreas B

yogybär 19th January 2009 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kalender1973 (Post 79966)
I assume the son of General Hans Jeschonnek Nikolaus[...]

According to Lipfert's diary, Nicolaus was a nephew "only". Who can clarifiy?

Jim P. 19th January 2009 18:35

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Wasn't Marseille's old man a General in he Army?

ChrisS 19th January 2009 21:54

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One of the tradegies of the Carganico family is that General Victior Carganico Horst's father and WWI hero was executed by the soviets whilst in captivity in 1945. http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkar...0132/10132.htm

I believe another Carganico went on to become Major General in the post war Bundeswehr.

Chris


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