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ROBERT CUTLER 15th March 2009 13:03

M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
I am a new member, but a long time collector. My interest now is the gathering of information on the M-30 Luft. Drillings. The biggest challange I face is trying to locate photos of Luftwaffe personel handling the M-30's. Have pictures of luftwaffe personel with Over/Under's and double barrel's. There was a picture, a number of years ago, showing an interned He 111 in Switzerland with all the equipment form inside the aircraft displayed in front of it to include a cased M-30.
If any members have some picture on the subject and would like to share them I would be eternally gratefull.
Bob Cutler wafdietz@aol.com

odybvig 16th March 2009 23:32

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Perhaps I am a little stupid, but what is a M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings ?

A gun, a flight suit or a ?????

Olve

jvmasset 17th March 2009 00:30

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
This is a "survival" double barrelled hunting gun bored 12 gauge on one barrel, and 9.3X74R for the other one. It was part of the on-board equipment on bombers in the Luftwaffe. Look there for photos:

http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.n...0_drilling.htm

Amically,

JVM

David Ransome 17th March 2009 09:08

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Thanks for the link to an excellent website!

Regards

David

Franek Grabowski 17th March 2009 14:34

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
You certainly mean treble barreled!

ROBERT CUTLER 18th March 2009 04:44

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Franek:
In Polish it might be treble, but in German it is Drillinge!
Bob

ROBERT CUTLER 18th March 2009 04:48

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
4 Attachment(s)
Pictures of some my luftwaffe shotguns and drillings.

David Ransome 18th March 2009 08:20

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
A superb collection Robert, especially where you have the complete Waffenkoffer with paperwork and 'accessories'. I have only ever seen one of these weapons and that was approximately twelve years ago, without any of it's bits and pieces!

I am sure that there are many LW enthusiasts out there who never knew about these until you introduced the subject here. Any chance of readable close-ups of any labels or loose paperwork?

Regards,

David

hanshauprich 18th March 2009 10:58

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Sauer&Sohn are still in bussiness. The "Drilling" is one of the famest German Huntingweapon and was also the service Rifle by most of the German Forrest Officals (German word: Förster). And, Hermann was also "Reichsjägermeister".

ROBERT CUTLER 18th March 2009 14:27

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
3 Attachment(s)
FOR: DAVID RANSOME et al.

PICTURES OF "PAPER"

David Ransome 18th March 2009 16:00

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Thanks Robert,

Very interesting pieces!

Franek Grabowski 18th March 2009 16:26

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBERT CUTLER (Post 83213)
Franek:
In Polish it might be treble, but in German it is Drillinge!
Bob

I did not know that treble in English means double!

jvmasset 18th March 2009 21:14

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Hello all!

I think I made a mistake: the M30 is indeed a 2X12ga + 1X9.3x74R (hence the "drilling"...otherwise it would have been a "zwilling", I guess!)

Sorry for that,

JV

ROBERT CUTLER 19th March 2009 02:16

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
NO WORRIES MATE!
ALL THE BEST,
BOB CUTLER

ChrisMAg2 19th March 2009 06:28

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
FYI, those who have problems with the german language:
Drilling in english is triple. It is another term for something in triplicate.

In this case "Drilling" refers to the three barrels. In hunting this gun type is also referred as "Bock-Drilling", indicating you can also use rifle type ammo, as for game like deers, besides the shotgun ammo for birds and boars.

gunnertwo 2nd March 2010 05:23

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
Newbie here. Was searching the 'net for info on the M30 and found this thread. Bob you have an outstanding collection.

I have had one of the LW M30 for many years. Was the most expensive gun bought by me up until last year. A great piece of history and one of the rarest military firearms ever procured for any country.

I understand Jan Still will include a chapter in his revised edition of Axis Pistols. I sent him my serial number. I'm sure you're in contact with him also. Thanks very much for sharing your collection. Remarkable!!

G2

ROBERT CUTLER 8th March 2010 13:33

Re: M30 Luftwaffe Survival Drillings
 
For JVM:
Joe Buffer wrote an article in "Guns ans Ammo" in 1979 showing thses pictures as the all encompassing proof of the use of the Drilling by the Luftwaffe. A number of years ago I received the full set of these pictures reproduced from the original negatives and under close scrutiny the feldwebel is handing down a side by side 12ga not a drilling. This is what makes my search so frusrating!!
Thanks for your input.
Bob "THE SEARCH GOES ON"


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