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Larry Hickey 22nd March 2009 07:44

Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hello,

Can anybody provide information on what happened to He111P WNr. 2463.

Regards,

RT 22nd March 2009 09:07

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hello Larry,
Not lost from Sept 40 till dec.41, nor the the school units, remains the losses between sept 39 to aug 40, but one among 479 ,

Remi

Larry Hickey 22nd March 2009 09:17

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Remi,

Thanks. This was from 5./KG54 circa 11.39. I don't think it was lost before the end of the FC, so a very narrow window here for loss during 7-8.40, otherwise it was much later.

Regards,

David Ransome 22nd March 2009 10:08

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hi Larry,

I have a P-2 of III./KG27 WNr 2463....... Rammed by Ju88 at Leipzig-Hockau on 15 February 1941 suffering 60% damage.

I don't have anything else as yet and my main record goes up to end of 1942.

As usual any verified corrections/amendments appreciated!

Regards,

David

Larry Hickey 22nd March 2009 15:45

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
David,

Thanks, that is just what I needed. I'll post you a personal email about this a/c.

Regards,

Larry

JoMe 23rd March 2009 15:41

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hi

It was a He 111 P-2 and was flown on first time on 06. Sept. 1938 in Rostock-Marienehe.
That's all, what I have.

JoMe

Larry Hickey 23rd March 2009 15:59

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Jo-Me,

What is the source of your info? Thanks for sending this. Very useful to me.

Regards

JoMe 25th March 2009 13:47

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hi Larry

The source ist FB Heinrich. He was a Heinkel-Pilot for work-flights and first-flights.

JoMe

ChrisS 25th March 2009 15:02

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hi Larry

I have 4 photos of this machine, I guess you will have these all ex-eBay, if not and if you want 'em I got 'em.

Cheers

Chris

Larry Hickey 25th March 2009 16:26

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Chris,

If you are referring to the ones that appeared on eBay about 3-4 weeks ago, I've got all four of them; I won the auction for 3 of those and I'm trying to contact the winner of the other one to do a swap. I have an auction image for that 4th one, but want a scan from an original. Thanks for offering.

Regards,

alain charpentier 25th March 2009 19:12

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hello,

I did some research on the crash-site of a He111, and found a little plaque with the Wnr 2407.
Could you provide some details on this aircraft ?

Thank you, Alain.

Larry Hickey 25th March 2009 21:02

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Alain,

Since the EOE Project is attempting to document precisely the location and identity of every aircraft, including Luftwaffe, that crashed or crash-landed during the WC, can you tell me what you know about the location and circumstances of the crash of the He111 with the W.Nr. 2407? This could likely be within the scope of our project. We have many photos of He111 losses during that period, and a comprehensive data base of all losses, but we're unlikely to be able to be helpful to you without more than the W.Nr., which generally wasn't recorded by the Luftwaffe records-keepers during that period of the war. Most of our information on that subject comes from either photos of the aircraft or crashes themselves, or the logbooks of the crewmen. Very few W.Nr.s come from surviving contemporary records. Your plaque could also be a component plane, not the master data plate with the a/c W.Nr.

Regards,

David Ransome 25th March 2009 21:14

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hi,

If the WNr of the aircraft is 2407 I have it recorded as an E-1 but no more info at present.

Regards,

David

alain charpentier 26th March 2009 03:43

Re: Need history of He111P WNr. 2463
 
Hello,

The plaque is little, on it it is written:

Heinkel Werk ??? G.m.b.H
Oranienburg
Fabr.Nr. 2407
Ab? LML then a little roundel with the number 68 in it

The crash-site is near Vierzon in France, I found many pieces of this aircraft.
The local witness cannot remember the year of the crash exactly, 1942 or 1943...It was in the evening, he said that the He111 was shot down by an other plane.
All the crew was killed and taken in the morning by germans army.
They leave all the wreckage in the wood, a great part was taken in 45 or 46 by local people.
I found some cartridge of light gun, but no other marking on all I found .

Alain.


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