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Morten Jessen 12th May 2009 12:04

Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hi all,
For some time I have tried to locate copies of the magazine 'Luftflotte Südost' in the period 1943/1944, but without any luck. I have tried ebay.de, but only rarely do they show up there and none in the period I am looking for. Also, I recently visited the BA-MA Freiburg, but did not succeed in finding them there .. maybe I was looking in the wrong files?

Can anyone assist me in finding these magazines? Any leads will be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards
Morten

Larry deZeng 12th May 2009 14:28

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
I searched the Center for Research Libraries catalog for you, but they don't have it either. In the event you didn't know, CRL is the world's largest repository of newspapers and serials, even larger than the Library of Congress and the British National Library.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...Search&aq=f&oq=

Larry deZeng 12th May 2009 14:41

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
But the U.S. Library of Congress does have a run of them:



LC Control No.:
sv 88047051
LCCN Permalink:
http://lccn.loc.gov/sv88047051
Type of Material:
Serial (Periodical, Newspaper, etc.)
Main Title:
Luftflotte Südost. (Berlin)





CALL NUMBER:
Not Available
-- Request in:
Jefferson or Adams Bldg General or Area Studies Reading Rms

-- Status:
Not Charged


Luftflotte Südost. (Berlin)
LC Control No.:
sv 88047051
Type of Material:
Serial (Periodical, Newspaper, etc.)
Main Title:
Luftflotte Südost. (Berlin)
Current Frequency:
Unknown





Nick Beale 12th May 2009 14:48

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng (Post 85844)
... and the British National Library.

I've not visited it but the British Library's Newspaper Reading Room is in Colindale, North London (right by the tube station and less than a mile from the RAF Museum).

Dénes Bernád 12th May 2009 14:50

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Did you ask these guys?
http://www.wartimepress.com/

Larry deZeng 12th May 2009 15:46

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
It looks like they have one edition (Heft) from 1943 and one from 1944. I am not sure if these are for sale, or if the site intends to eventually make the contents available. I attempted to open it up by clicking the cover and elsewhere, but nothing happened. It certainly is a great site with a commendable purpose and a site I didn't know about before, and I wish them the best with their endeavor.

Morten Jessen 12th May 2009 16:09

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hi Larry, Nick and Dénes

Thank you for your very quick replies. I have written both Wartime Press and Library of Congress .. fingers crossed.
If that does not lead to anything I will give the British Library's Newspaper Reading Room a call and enquire.

Andrew and I need to locate an article called 'Grenadiere der Luft' for our next manuscript about the Fw 190s over Sicily.

Once again thanks for your help.

All the best
Morten

Kari Lumppio 12th May 2009 21:56

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hello!

What is even better, the U.S. Library of Congress seems also hold the Luftflotte Nordost magazines. Morten and Andrew, you are writing a book about Lw in Kurland Kessel, right?

I for one would be veeery interested about the "2. augusthefte 1944" of the Luftflotte Nordost magazine. Mr. Weal in his Osprey Schlachtgruppe book had some photos from an article which was published in the issue. Actually any and all articles dealing about airwar in Luftflotte 1 area during 1944 up to end of September are of great interest to me. October and November too as far it concerns fighting around Saaremaa (Oesel) island.

I would very much like to hear more how one could get a copy of the said Luftflotte magazines. Perhaps it is possible to purchase a paper copy / scan from the Library of Congress? As Third Reich publication copyright is no problem


Kari

Morten Jessen 12th May 2009 23:49

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hi Kari,

I will keep you updated on progress with the Library of Congress and possibly request the Nordost magazines for 1944 (if it does not come with a huge price tag). Wartime Press got back to me promptly, but the article I am looking for is not in the Südost magazine, September issue.

Regarding the Kurland project that is one of Andrew's babies, I am just forwarding things to him when I come across it :-)

Cheers
Morten

Joschi 13th May 2009 11:05

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
hi all

i´m also very intersted on this magazines,..
send me infos,..if you have something

regards

Joschi

Erik Mombeeck 13th May 2009 14:30

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hello,

interesting this link: http://www.wartimepress.com/

I proposed them my collection of original Luftflotte Nord magazines. Nevertheless before to discuss a price, I wanted to give a priority for someone of our community who should be interested.
Regards
Erik

Morten Jessen 15th May 2009 08:59

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hi Kari and Jocshi

The Library of Congress replied that they do not hold any magazines (however, my request was for Luftflotte Südost only), but I am referred to
the German National Library at http://www.d-nb.de/eng/index.htm that holds the serial. And I just checked for Luftflotte Nordost and it looks like they have that as well .. http://d-nb.info/013894307

Kind regards
Morten

Larry deZeng 15th May 2009 14:27

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
I am glad you were able to locate a source for them, Morten, but I am perplexed over the Library of Congress response. Why would their catalog clearly show that they have them in the reading rooms in the Jefferson or Adams buildings but now claim they don't? I wonder if maybe they used to have them but returned them to Germany some years ago? I think I recall that they did do that with some items back in the 1970's and 1980's.

Dénes Bernád 15th May 2009 15:08

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
While talking of Luftwaffe newspapers/magazines, I recall seeing a similar format magazine called (or published by) 'Luftflotte 4'. This magazine was even translated in other languages, like Hungarian and Rumanian.

Has anyone seen this magazine?

Thanks,

Morten Jessen 15th May 2009 20:06

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hi Larry

Yeah, I was surpriced about that as well. But here is what they wrote:

------ Start -------
Hello:

This is in response to your inquiry of May 12, 2009.
I am unable to verify that the Library of Congress holds this title; however, the German National Library at
< http://www.d-nb.de/eng/index.htm > reports holding the serial. The individual record is linked at < http://d-nb.info/026038870 > and copied below:

Link zu diesem Datensatz http://d-nb.info/026038870 Zeitschrift/Serie Luftflotte Süd / hrsg. von der Luftflotte 2 Organisation Deutschland <Deutsches Reich> / Luftflotte Süd Verleger Venezia : Ferrari Erscheinungsverlauf 1.1943 - 27.1944[?], 1943 - 1944 Sachgruppe Y Abgeschlossene Veröffentlichungen

This is the only record that I can locate and hopefully the German National Library will have the entire run of this serial. Best wishes with your research.

Sincerely,
------ End -------

Anyway, it's easier for me to deal with the Geman Library as I visit Frankfurt fairly often.

Cheers
Morten

Larry deZeng 16th May 2009 00:26

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
Hi Morten,

Quote:

we are unable to verify.........
That almost sounds like bureaucrat-speak for "we are too lazy to get up out of our chair and take a look"!

Quote:

Anyway, it's easier for me to deal with the Geman Library as I visit Frankfurt fairly often.

Yes, in the end I think this has worked out best this way. A visit to Frankfurt/M. will certainly be easier for you that trying to deal long-distance with the Library of Congress.

I hope Frankfurt has the Heft you want!

Larry

Joschi 16th May 2009 22:18

Re: Luftflotte Südost magazines
 
morten,

thats very good to listen this

i´m on 180 km from frankfort,..
and would call them,...

greets

Joschi


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