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micky 21st June 2005 12:52

MTO RAF Losses
 
"MTO RAF Losses"
Hello, anyone know if exist an RAF units MTO losses database online, or another online database for DAF or british units in italy? Thanks.

Michele

fireship 21st June 2005 13:41

Re: MTO RAF Losses
 
Hi Michele,
i know the problems with DAF/ RAF losses
in MTO.
I search since five years for such a database,
but i have not found.
Maybe i'am wrong, i hope it.

Regards
Fireship

micky 24th June 2005 12:03

Re: MTO RAF Losses
 
....sob!...

Nick Beale 26th June 2005 00:07

Re: MTO RAF Losses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by micky
"MTO RAF Losses"
Hello, anyone know if exist an RAF units MTO losses database online, or another online database for DAF or british units in italy? Thanks.

Michele

The trouble is that databases only exist when people do the work necessary to compile them. Why don't you begin one for RAF MTO losses yourself? If there are reasons why you can't do that, those same reasons may explain why no one else has done the job for you so far.

Make a start, you may find it addictive and people will be willing to contribute.

John Beaman 26th June 2005 01:22

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Amen, Bro' Nick!

fireship 26th June 2005 13:46

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Hi Nick,

since five years i try to building an MTO Database for
RAF / Commonwealth losses.
Since five years i surf in forum's and set questions.
Answers are very rare.
As example my question here in the forum
( MTO Claim 1941 by JG 27 ).
I don't know why.
Maybe while i came from germany.
In last five yeras i have to learn that sometimes exist
the same old enmity after sixty years of war's end.

Regards
Fireship

Franek Grabowski 26th June 2005 14:09

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You get no information because internet is not the source of such information. You have to bother yourself and research the losses at archives, namely NA/PRO at Kew.

Dénes Bernád 26th June 2005 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fireship
Maybe while i came from germany.
In last five yeras i have to learn that sometimes exist
the same old enmity after sixty years of war's end.

I don't think this is an issue any more.
Anyhow, from your nick-name and public personal information, it's not clear that you're German.

I second the opinions given above, namely if you're truly interested in the intricate details of a certain topic, you should try to do the research yourself, using primary sources. I did the same myself, and the results are well above of what I've originally imagined...

John Beaman 26th June 2005 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fireship
since five years i try to building an MTO Database for
RAF / Commonwealth losses.
Since five years i surf in forum's and set questions.
Answers are very rare.
As example my question here in the forum
( MTO Claim 1941 by JG 27 ).
I don't know why.
Maybe while i came from germany.
In last five yeras i have to learn that sometimes exist
the same old enmity after sixty years of war's end.

Regards
Fireship

I assure you this is not the reason. First, I do not think that prejudice exists on this Board. Second, with the use of your nickname, "Fireship", how would anyone know you are German?

The main reason people might be reluctant to share on the Web, assuming someone out there has such a database, is that they have likely spent years, tediously compiling it. While they don't mind answering the ocassional question, they are reluctant to share it on a world-wide basis, which is what happens once it is posted, without some sort of "trade" or other return for their efforts.

Luc Vervoort 26th June 2005 21:50

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Michele,


Are you looking for losses for a certain unit + period ?

Perhaps, perhaps I can help you....

Please contact me directly via af9th(at)yahoo.co.uk.

Best regards

Luc

micky 27th June 2005 09:40

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"The trouble is that databases only exist when people do the work necessary to compile them. Why don't you begin one for RAF MTO losses yourself? If there are reasons why you can't do that, those same reasons may explain why no one else has done the job for you so far.
Make a start, you may find it addictive and people will be willing to contribute."

MMh, Nick, i have never considered the deal from this point of view, may be i'll be able to do this!!

I would informations only about DAF or others british fighters and fighter-bomber units only for 1944 and 1945 units.
Luc, did you have some infos to start? thanks to all friends!!

Mick

fireship 27th June 2005 10:00

Re: MTO RAF Losses
 
Hi to all,

sorry folks i don't mean this board with my critic,
but in other boards i used not a nickname, and
it's truly happen after public that i came from
germany.
That's the fact.

Regards
Fireship

Laurent Rizzotti 27th June 2005 11:42

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Fireship, I don't think that your nationality is the reason you have few answers. The fact is Internet is working like that.

My Internet queries are probably successfull in 20% of the cases, even if I use specialized forums (and I use about twenty of them) and I use a good part of them for sometimes, so I guess some people "know" me, that may increase my probabily to get an answer. I think it's also important to provide as much data as you receive.

On the other hand, when I have an aswer, it is often because my question has allready interested someone (and been answered somewhere), or is interesting the community, and then the result is sometimes much more complete than what I was excepting.

I think your RAF queries will be more successfull on the RAF Commands forum: http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/d...conf=DCConfID1

By the way, a book like the Bomber Command Losses series is in preparation for the MTO.

Tundra 21st July 2005 15:37

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Sorry this is confined to one squadron that being RAF 112 Sqn, but there is also a fine loss section dealing with RAAF 3 Sqn to be found on the web, hopefully I will give the correct links.

Rob

RAF 112 Sqn losses: http://www.geocities.com/raf_112_sqdn/planelosses.html

RAAF 3 Sqn losses: http://www.3squadron.org.au/subpages/roll.htm

Many Souffan 21st July 2005 23:10

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By the way, a book like the Bomber Command Losses series is in preparation for the MTO.[/quote]

Hello Laurent.

How do you know this info?

Andy Fletcher 21st July 2005 23:48

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Hi Many,

Sorry for butting in but Ross McNeill mentioned it a couple of week ago. He said that the MTO losses book has been commissioned by Midland and due for release before the release of Vol II of his Coastal Commad losses.

Best Regards

Andy Fletcher

Many Souffan 22nd July 2005 06:11

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Thank you very much Andy

Tundra 22nd September 2005 20:26

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Heres a start from RAF 112 Sqn

http://www.geocities.com/raf_112_sqdn/planelosses.html

http://www.geocities.com/raf_112_sqd...on_claims.html


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