Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

This wreck was recovered in Normandy. I was curious who the pilot was, unit, reason for crash, etc.

Thanks!

Mike

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Do you know this site: http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/formula...ase_pertes.php?

The bit you want is the option "Recherchez par le werk" (search by Werk Nummer).

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

ah!!! very good!!!! :)

Mike

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Does anyone have this information? The site is not available, or doesn't appear to be....

http://www.absa39-45.asso.fr/formula...ase_pertes.php?

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Try absa39-45.com will be better...
... and, anyway, don't need to try this link since it does concern BRETAGNE AREA not NORMANDY! :D
Cheers, Franck.

PS: of course this WNr. isn't in their list.

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Normandy losses are still there, under "Aviation divers" and then "Les pertes du 6 juin au 31 août 1944"

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

1944-07-04, 12./JG 27, Bf 109G-6, 165236, Raum Bernay, Luftkampf. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Thümmel, Manfred, verletzt

Matti

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Hi Matti!

Your info is not correct...

The remains of this aircraft, were recovered in the 1990's in Normandy. Based on the markings, and pilot, this is the correct loss info for W.Nr. 165236:

Lt. Gerhard Schindler, Me109 G6, "White 1" from 10/JG27. Loss was on 10.6.1944. Pilot became a POW.

Where did you get the info you posted?

;)

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Dear Mike,

you're information concerning Bf 109 G-6 165 236 is quite puzzling - according to the WASt. report the aircraft was lost as pointed out my Matti on July 4th, 1944, with Lt. Manfred Thümmel being wounded, whereas Lt. Gerhard Schindler had to belly land on German held territory on June 10th being wounded, his aircraft Bf 109 G-6 WerkNr. 412 422, " white 1 " being moderatley damaged ( 20 % ). Schindler was not captured; to the contrary he soldiered on with IV./JG 27, acting temporarily as Staffelführer of 13./JG 27, being wounded again on December 16th, 1944.

So it would be interesting to learn where your information came from.

Regards

Jochen Prien

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

My info comes from the person who recovered the wreck. He told me it was recovered in France, and I have many relics from this loss. I also have a piece with the werk number on it...

let me re-confirm with him, as something is not right...

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Ahh Yes You're right, sorry. Thanks Nick. http://www.absa39-45.com/Weiterschalten3/index.html

Franck.

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Sorry but there is only 41 men in this database.

There was a base for Luftwaffe Normandy losses in 1944 available on the Net and covering fighter, bomber and other aircraft, and having several thousand men listed, but the old site is not working.

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Actually I have spoken a little too fast...

With the adress above, I have been able to find the Normandy database.

The direct adress is http://baseportal.de/cgi-bin/basepor...=/ABSA/06_Juni

Re: Info Needed on Me109G-6 W.Nr. 165236
 

Ah, actually it's the same "door" and list but your adress is faster Laurent! Pity they don't give sources... And pity we have to click them one by one to get details.... But tipical of French sites: MOTO " WE ARE SO SMART WHY DO IT SIMPLE WHEN WE CAN DO COMPLICATED" !!... I don't give you the full list of such sites and forums... unreadable!

Cheers, Franck.