New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

HIi guys,

A friend of mine is recovering a Fw190 wreck in Latvia...so far a lot of items have been recovered, but the wreck is in a bog 6 feet deep.

The 190 crashed in August 1944, flying alone and burning. Sadly, the parachute was found in the wreck. He was flying to the direction of Cesis (Wenden), which was near a JG54 airfield. I do have a map of where the crash is located, but do not want to post it as the wreck is still being recovered.

Eyewitness say that this was the only airplane seen that day. They saw the smoke trailing the aircraft…and she flew alone (no Russian or other German aircraft were in the area). Suspected it was downed by anti-aircraft fire. She flew in a North-West direction, straight toward Cesis (Wenden), then turned 180 degrees and crashed. We are suspecting the 180 degree turn was due to another FlaK hit. The wreck was found just east of Ergli, Latvia.

We "think" it was the aircraft of Horst Adameit from 1/JG54, as it matches the direction, battle, time and distance. However, it was equipped with the FuG16, MG151's and Mg131's…which is normal for an A-7/A-8…while Horst's was an A-5 (W. Nr. 155960). Do not recall if the A-5 was equipped with this...

Info on the prop Hub indicates:

Sach.Nr. 9-12067
Verwendbar fGr. 9-12067
12153A

Which I also think is for the later series...

The crash happened between August 7th and 18th ...

Does anyone have any info or thoughts on this?

Thanks!

Re: New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

Also have him for an A-6 in that time period, 550528, schwarze << +, Rodeike, Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug, p.230 photos.

However, an A-6 would not have carried the MG 131s either.

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Does II/JG54 fit into this area ? if so on 18-8-44 there is the loss of Fw190A8 172637 White 15 Ofhr. Helmut Dorner (umlaut over o) killed following combat with Yak 9's no location given. The loss list I have also shows Ademeit in A5 5960 and as follows '' LK 8-10 Il-2 15.20 aus Uberhohung Il-2 angegriffen dann Angriff abgebrochen, verfolgte trotz eigenen starken Bodenbeschuss''. A location has been written in which looks like Kr??zburg possibly Kreuzburg

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Hello,

I have an XLS file with some JG54 losses during the whole war. From my info, Ademeit crashed on the 7th of August 1944 with his A-5 10km far from Kreuzberg. Helmut Dorner crashed in Estonia on the 15th of August near Dorpat. I don't have any info about a pilot called Paul-Heinz Friebel (Werk Nummer 560208). He crashed with his A-8 on the 4th of august but I don't know where. Maybe it's your guy

Re: New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

Hello Mike,

do you have any informations about the pilots fate? If your friend found a parachute, I guess he also found some human remains in the wreck.

Please inform me about this important case.

Thank you very much.

Sebastian

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Could it be the following:
1944-08-22, 1./SG 4, Fw 190 F-8, 931853, 7 weiße, südlich Vejava, östlich Ergli
Flugzeugführer Uffz Daleiden, Heribert, +
Vermutlich durch Flak. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

Re: New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

No, it was Ademeit's...

:)

Mike

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Were the necessary authorities contacted for processing of remains?

Re: New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

Dear Mike,

I would really appreciate it if you could tell me about the human remains. If they found the parachute inside the wreck, there must be something from the pilot, too. Please inform me about this.

Also I would like to know, how you can be sure if it was Horst Ademeits plane?

Best regards

Sebastian

Re: New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

no, the pilots remains were taken away and buried somewhere else in 1945...and the wreck was moved and buried.

The wreck was an upgraded A5 that had A8 features.

It crashed in the first week of August 1944 flying alone and trailing smoke. She was flying to the direction of Cesis (Wenden), which was near a JG54 airfield.

Eyewitness say that this was the only airplane seen that day. They saw the smoke trailing the aircraft…and she flew alone (no Russian or other German aircraft were in the area). Suspect it was downed by anti-aircraft fire. She flew in a North-West direction, straight toward Cesis (Wenden), then turned 180 degrees and crashed. The wreck was found just east of Ergli, Latvia (Russia).

The only recorded loss we know in this area is that of Horst Adameit from 1/JG54, as it matches the direction, battle, time and distance. Horst's was an A-5 (W. Nr. 155960) that was upgraded to A8, and that is that is exactly what was found. Also props were of the later type…

We know 100% it was JG54 as that was the only base in the area (also the direction of flight)... ;)

No other losses are recorded on this date...

So we are 99.9% confident it was Ademeit's...

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Dear Mike,

my great uncle also crashed in the first August week, he was also JG 54 pilot. So there must have been more than one crash in that time.

In the missing report of my great uncle is mentioned, that he lost contact to his comrades during a air combat. So he was flying alone when he crashed. Thats why I must know everything about that crash site you found.

Please help me to find out more about this.

Did you find any data plate? Or maybe the "dog tag" from the pilot? It is very important..

I will visit Latvia this summer, maybe I could meet your friend that found the plane?

Thank you for your help.

Best regards

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Dear Mike,

Horst Ademeit is still listed as "missed in action". So it is very important to hand all informations about the story you mentioned to the authorities. Even, if it is not my great uncles plane. We need to inform them about the buried pilot in 1945.

If we can find out more about the pilot´s fate, it would be just a great thing. You mentioned, that you have some informations about this. I am already in contact with the German War Cemetory Committee (VDK) and I know who could take care about this.

Please contact me.

Thank you.

Sebastian

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I found this email in my spam folder today:

""Tovarishi ,
user reported that no known Horst Adamaitis grave.Nothing.User
reported that they had
guess only.
So my guess that Breslau man Horst Adamaitis digging motivated partly
by his Lithuania
roots.
Idea to got some , boost Baltic JG54 "hero" in digging community .Team
need more work
with FW-190 ID .
Volksbund is non very cooperative org with strange ideas .

I m reader and non related to area works and not in contact.
Bests , Sergey""


All the same the VDK perhaps need to be notified despite their "strange ideas". Corespondance can be kept on the forum.

Re: New Fw190 wreck found...info needed on loss
 

Dear Dennis,

thank you, this is quite interesting. Anyway I still hope that Mike will help.

Best regards

Sebastian