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edwest 16th December 2009 03:45

Photos 12-15
 
Just a few
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280438594226
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180445283682
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370303089345
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170419968138
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170419968930
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280438147590

Me 262
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180445282628
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170419969448



Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Dan O'Connell 16th December 2009 12:34

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Thanks for posting these as Me 262's Ed.

Modeldad 16th December 2009 14:24

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Looks like another Fw 190A-3 made it to the end. Thanks Ed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170419968138

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170419968930

John Beaman 16th December 2009 16:20

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan O'Connell (Post 97524)
Thanks for posting these as Me 262's Ed.

So, Dan, where do these fit into your list?

Mark Proulx 16th December 2009 16:54

Re: Photos 12-15
 
IMHO, this 262 appears to be 9K+FH, W.Nr 111685, well photographed.

Mark Proulx

unikum 16th December 2009 18:21

Re: Photos 12-15
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180445283682
What is this version?G or K??Thanks

Dan O'Connell 16th December 2009 21:50

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Beaman (Post 97533)
So, Dan, where do these fit into your list?

John, both photos are of 500079.

ouidjat 16th December 2009 23:06

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Hi gents,

The WNr.500079, F1+DA, I have was pictured at Giebelstadt, got a "D" on small wheel bay door, a dark coloured nose tip as well fin tip underlined with a white (clear) line. Must be another one (the one I have).
Cheers,
Franck.

Marc-André Haldimann 17th December 2009 00:04

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unikum (Post 97538)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180445283682
What is this version?G or K??Thanks

Hallo Unikum,

It is a Bf 109 K-4, judging by the respective position of the D/F loop and the MW 50 filling hatch.

Ed, you did it again! A new K-4 pic, hooray! And thanks!

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 17th December 2009 00:26

Re: Photos 12-15
 
And for all to enjoy, more interesting shots of the US Signal Corps found on e-bay:

A bombed out Ju 88G at Manching:
http://cgi.ebay.com/German-bomber-in...item414af93f89

A great FW 109 F-9 pic (?)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Focke-Wulfe-190-...item414b510ba9

A new Mistel?
http://cgi.ebay.com/FW-190-on-JU-88-...item414b592508

A fascinating late 1945 pic taken near Schongau. I would guess an Erla Bf 109G-10, given the grey camouflage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/German-planes-pa...item414b6d3cd3

http://cgi.ebay.com/Captured-Bf-110-...item414b6da191
http://cgi.ebay.com/Closeup-of-Luftw...item414b6faf61

Ju 88G's at Langensalza near Muelhausen:
http://cgi.ebay.com/6th-Armored-Divi...item414b6fb8f3


Me 262:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Another-captured...item414b82201b
http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-en...item414b6e4878
http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-ME...item414b8225a0

Off topic (or Autobahn surprise...):

http://cgi.ebay.com/p-47-crash-lande...item414b592998

As you say, ED, usual disclaimer...

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 17th December 2009 07:16

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Hi,
Thanks for the Bf109G-10 Marc. Nice picture! Just in time to be a forecast, it seems!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-en...item414b6e4878
That one is 500079.
Cheers,
Franck.

Dan O'Connell 17th December 2009 09:33

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 97555)
And for all to enjoy, more interesting shots of the US Signal Corps found on e-bay:

A bombed out Ju 88G at Manching:
http://cgi.ebay.com/German-bomber-in...item414af93f89

A great FW 109 F-9 pic (?)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Focke-Wulfe-190-...item414b510ba9

A new Mistel?
http://cgi.ebay.com/FW-190-on-JU-88-...item414b592508

A fascinating late 1945 pic taken near Schongau. I would guess an Erla Bf 109G-10, given the grey camouflage...
http://cgi.ebay.com/German-planes-pa...item414b6d3cd3

http://cgi.ebay.com/Captured-Bf-110-...item414b6da191
http://cgi.ebay.com/Closeup-of-Luftw...item414b6faf61

Ju 88G's at Langensalza near Muelhausen:
http://cgi.ebay.com/6th-Armored-Divi...item414b6fb8f3


Me 262:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Another-captured...item414b82201b
http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-en...item414b6e4878
http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-ME...item414b8225a0

Off topic (or Autobahn surprise...):

http://cgi.ebay.com/p-47-crash-lande...item414b592998

As you say, ED, usual disclaimer...

Cheers
Marc


First 262 is 111711, second is F1+DA as discussed earlier, third is near the Autobahn at Sheppach (Kuno I)

Marc-André Haldimann 17th December 2009 14:29

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 97566)
Hi,
Thanks for the Bf109G-10 Marc. Nice picture! Just in time to be a forecast, it seems!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-en...item414b6e4878
That one is 500079.
Cheers,
Franck.

Yep, Ouidjat, correct: all snowclo... Fortunately, I received yesterday Jerry's FW 190D volume II. So, I'm all set ;-))))

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 17th December 2009 14:52

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 97566)
Hi,
Thanks for the Bf109G-10 Marc. Nice picture! Just in time to be a forecast, it seems!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-inspecting-en...item414b6e4878
That one is 500079.
Cheers,
Franck.

Yep, Ouidjat, correct: all snowclo... Fortunately, I received yesterday Jerry's FW 190D volume II. So, I'm all set ;-))))

Cheers
Marc

Mark Proulx 17th December 2009 15:05

Re: Photos 12-15
 
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I still contend this E-bay image is W.Nr. 111685, 9K+FH

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180445282628

Mark Proulx

Mark Proulx 17th December 2009 15:11

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Note how the damage to the right engine, faint striping to the nose cone and nose camouflage pattern match perfectly to that in this well known color shot. Note also the white fin cap on the tail and the "notch" in the bottom edge of the marking around the rudder.

Mark Proulx

Mark Proulx 17th December 2009 15:13

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And, last, the W.Nr. on the tail of 9K+FH.

HTH

Mark Proulx

John Beaman 17th December 2009 15:22

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Marc-Anre:

I would say the 109 is more likely a G-14/AS because of the small, regular oil tank behind the spinner. The 605D engine in the K-4 required the large oil tank.

I think that is an F-8 with a "blown" canopy. The F-9 has the BMW 801TS engine which required the "paddle-bladed" prop blades. These are regular 801D type blades. This is a well-published photo.

S Sheflin 17th December 2009 18:26

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Dan and John,

Could this be a G-8?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Focke-Wulfe-190-...item414b510ba9

Pitot tube on right wingtip; no outer wing weapons; no Morane mast; and what looks like a single ETC 503 bomb rack under each wing.

Steve Sheflin

Marc-André Haldimann 17th December 2009 23:35

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Dan, John

Thanks for your valued informations. John, though I read your opus way back in 1979, it seems I will never master that late Bf 109 typology correctly... Thanks God, you're around to put us back in the right track...

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 18th December 2009 09:56

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Proulx (Post 97586)
I still contend this E-bay image is W.Nr. 111685, 9K+FH

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180445282628

Mark Proulx

No doubt about this one Mark. Bright clear, It is 111685! You're perfectly right to insist.
Cheers,
Franck.

Dan O'Connell 18th December 2009 11:43

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 97595)
Dan and John,

Could this be a G-8?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Focke-Wulfe-190-...item414b510ba9

Pitot tube on right wingtip; no outer wing weapons; no Morane mast; and what looks like a single ETC 503 bomb rack under each wing.

Steve Sheflin


It 'looks" like one Steve, but I'm not a 190 expert.

Pawel Burchard 18th December 2009 16:25

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin
Could this be a G-8?

looks like one... has flamedampers also

regards,
Pawel

obdl3945 18th December 2009 19:13

Re: Photos 12-15
 
Mark...

Love the colour photo of the Me262... :)

I'm inclined to support your belief that it is 1./KG51's '9K+FH'. The aircraft I/D letter is clearly white, as is the matching tail fin tip. If it had been F1+DA, the 'D' would likely have been medium blue to confirm Geschwaderstab status, but it's clearer in this photo that it's not a 'D' we're even looking at.

Regards...

Paul

Dan O'Connell 18th December 2009 22:37

Re: Photos 12-15
 
There appears to be some confusion here, as 5 different 262 photos are being discussed. I made reference to the 3 posted by Haldiman, not those posted by Ed West. The first one, posted by Ed is clearly 9K+FH, no doubt about it, while the other most likely found at the Kuno I waldwerk.


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