Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

An Air field in between Pskov and Starya Russa (maybe a little to the west) identified as "Prichon" base for II/SKG 210 from 10 August to 4 September 1941. I am Assuming this is a phonetic German spelling or or a small village not found on a large map where the unit was based. But where is it ? Can anyone help?

Thanks
Oquaig

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

The information I have from a former member of 5./SKG 210 gives the location at that time as 'Prichon (Dno) Leningrad. They then moved to Seschtschinskaja in September 1941.

Hope this helps.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

According to our compilation of airfields, the place that you refer to is probably:

Prichon (RUSS) (e. Prichon?) (a.k.a. Verkhniy Prikhon) (c. 58 17 N – 30 32 E) -
General: landing ground in W Russia 50 km SW of Novgorod, located at the north end of LakeIlmen, and 21 km NE of Sol’tsy airfield.

We hope that this helps.

HLdZ
DGS

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Doug,
Does that match with what I posted?

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Gents:
When moved to Northern sector of Estern Front to support Pz.Gr.4 with its attack in way to Nowgorod and further to Lyuban' and Tosno to Ladoga lake, II./SKG210 was based at:

3.8.41 - 10.8.41, small village Malitino (Малитино), ~6km SE from Porkhov (Порхов) sity and ~23km WSW from Dno (Дно).
http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CBtQpD

Then, when frontline moved forward, on 10.8.41 II./SKG210 flew forward to Prikhon (Прихон), which was one small village in WW2 time, but now it is divided into two parts - Verkhniy Prikhon (Upper Prikhon) and Nizhniy Prikhon (Lower Prikhon). It is a village ~50km WSW from Nowgorod (Новгород), and ~60km NWN from Staraya Russa (Старая Русса).
http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CBtrKB
On 4.9.41 Gruppe was withdrawn to support Guderian's attack to Kiev.

All this You will find (I hope) after some years, in a book :)

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Thank you Gents,

Doug Stankey and Evgeny Velichko answered my question best (Nice map link Evgeny and yes I read Russian). So here is my reconstruction of II/SKG 210 movements in the 1941 eastern campaign:

II/SKG 210

22.6.41 - 30.6.41 Radzyn (51.7531774N, 22.6291752E ) Bf 110
30.6.41 - 6.7.41 Klemensow (15km W of Zamosc 50.7333044N, 23.0333519E) Bf 110
6.7.41 - 10.7.41 Minsk-Matschulicze (53.7767177N, 27.5791168E )Bf 110
10.7.41 - 15.7.41 Boyari (54.2607123N, 28.8609982E)Bf 110
15.7.41 - 25.7.41 Orscha (Balbasovo 54.4368049N, 30.2960014E )Bf 110
25.7.41 - 3.8.41 Schatalowka-Ost Bf 110
3.8.41 - 10.8.41 Milyatino (Malitino 9 km SE of Porkhov 57.7237694N, 29.6641159E )Bf 110
10.8.41 - 4.9.41 Prichon (Prikon 21 km NE of Soltsy 58.2743015N, 30.557785E )Bf 110
4.9.41 - 15.10.41 Seschtschinskaya (Sesha 53.717841N, 33.3462524E )Bf 110
15.10.41 - 6.11.41 Shaikovka Bf 110
6.11.41 - 2.1.42 Orel-West (Yuzhny 52.9351897N, 36.0035706E )Bf 110


As you can see I am still looking for Shaikovka anybody have an idea?

Thank You very much again
Oquaig

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

This is from a former member of 5./ZG 1, Otto Atz. Might help with II./SKG 210 movements in 1941.

http://i41.tinypic.com/amchds.jpg

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

oquaig:

Correct name for a/f mnear Minsk is: Минск-Мачулищи, it is Minsk-Machulischi.

Shaikovka (Шайковка)/Bypolzovo(Выползово), is an small town 30rm ESE from Spas-Demyansk.
http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CBe2a9r

Naryshkino is an airfield 20rm W from Orel. That was a base for II./SKG210. I have several photos of Bf110 of II Gruppe on that airfioeld during winter 41/42.

P.S. There is more than 20 places with name Bojary in Belarus. So dont be so sure :)

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Hello again,

The list you gave John is interesting as it shows II/SKG210 moving back to Briyansk in December 1941. That's new, thanks.
As for my source on "Orel-West" that is all it says. Finding out that II/SKG210 is at Ct. Нарышкино is all the more interesting. Thanks again Evgeny, I am looking forward to your book no matter what language its printed in.
I see no air field trace in the photos for Naryshkino as well as Prikon and Malitino. That is why I appreciate your input. I am gaining the impression that the Luftwaffe improvised a lot of their air fields as they went forward. Was Naryshkino also a VVS base? As for Boyari (Bojary, Boyary) air field, yes I am aware the are 20 plus Bojary's in Belarus and I am not so sure of my choice of locations, but sometimes throwing out suggestions like this brings a lot of interesting feed back. As an educated guess I pick the stated location because it is west of Minsk, assuming that II/SKG210 was moving forward behind Panzer Group 2. Bojary is very close to Priyamino (Приямино) where the 169th FAR was based the last week of June 1941. Other Luftwaffe units were based at Dokudovo and just by coincidence there a Dokudovo a few km to the NE, but again there is more than one Dokudovo in Belarus. My mind is open on this, so I will press "Submit Reply" and see what happens next.

Thanks again
Oquaig

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

1. Naryshkino - I dont know, but I'll check.

2. Bojary - yes, loca. You listed is 90% for sure correct.

3. I am not the only author. We are two - me and Andre Stewart. Book will be in english, and will come (I hope) after 2-3 years.

P.S. What is Your interest in SKG210?

P.P.S.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

What I am attempting to do here is track all the Luftwaffe groups that participated in the 1941 campaign. I started with STG 2 because I had the least information on it. Since both STG 2 and II SKG 210 went north with VIII Fliegerkorps tracking this unit might shed some light on the where STG 2 went (which I now believe was in Soltsy along with II LG 2). Next I will work on the movements of I SKG 210 and since I’m working on Bf 110s I’ll do I, II ZG 76 after that. My main focus is on the groups flying with II and VIII Fliegerkorps and this will become a series of maps identifying air fields for both Luftwaffe and VVS aviation units. This is a project within a project. The real project is to identify and track all the VVS aviation regiments in the 1941 campaign. So far work on the VVS has proven more easy.



Oquaig

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Evgeny,
You've got to get over here and get into my research material at the Archive at some time in the future. I'll take you through it all.

John V.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

John - thanks for this kind help.

I am not sure, if I will be able to get to England this year...

But could visit You, I hope, instead of me :)

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

oquaig:

Actually, original (russian) names of that airfields are:

Malitino - Veretje (Веретье)
Prikhon - Medved (Медведь)

There are some photos of that airfields with crippled VVS aircrafts on it.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Hello Doug,

Referring to your compilation of airfields where is tyrkovo (supposed to be near Luga.

Thanks again
Oquaig

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

An interesting picture of Priyamino, Dokudovo and could it be...Bojary airfield ?

tell me what you think
Oquaig

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

The following is from the Luftwaffe's 1941-44 perspective only. It appears that they were two separate airfields but quite close together.

Bojary (RUSS) (e. Boyari; today Boyary) (54 16 N – 28 49 E)
General: landing ground in Belorussia (today Belarus) 92 km NE of Minsk, 13 km E of Borisov (Barysaw) and just north of the railway line. Very little use, if any, from Sep 41 to Mar 44.
Dokudowo (RUSS) (e. Dokudovo) (54 20 N – 28 53 E)
General: landing ground in Belorussia (today Belarus) 100 km ENE of Minsk and 27 km ENE Borisov. Rated for bombers.

L.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

So if Stab.III./StG 1 was at Dokudovo between 5 to 17 July, and II./SKG 210 is at "Boyary" (54 16 N – 28 49 E matches the location for Priyamino - marked "C" on the photo) between 10 to 15 July, I am guessing that the Priyamino (marked "D" on the photo) is where III. and IV./JG 51 were based between 9 to 12 July. Sounds like a busy place. Most likely this is the same Boyary that Stab.I.II./KG 55 flew its missions to Moscow from.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

There is no listing for a "Prijamino" or "Priyamino" is the German material on UdSSR Flugplätze. The common practice was to name the airfield after the nearest town or village. If it was close to two towns or villages, both names were sometimes used, one officially and the other unofficially. I could also be that "Priyamino" was an undeveloped satellite or auxiliary strip that belonged to either Dokudovo or Boyary.

L.

Re: Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?
 

Frankly I have suspected for some time that airfields the Luftwaffe units occupied took their names from the place they were quartered in.