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idartist45 4th April 2010 21:53

Luftwaff Units 1944
 
I am doing a painting of Duane Beesons P-51 "Bee" shooting down an Fw-190 over Aachen Germany 1944. I need the markings/colors or units that would have been operating in this area at this time. Can anyone help or direct me to this information??? I believe this would have been his 10th kill. Thanks in advance.
Bill Gardoski

tango35 5th April 2010 10:07

Re: Luftwaff Units 1944
 
Hello,
a bit more of information would be nice. When does happen ?

idartist45 5th April 2010 20:39

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Going by my reference material it was on Feb. 20th 1944 over Aachen. It was kill no. 10 for Beeson. My info does not say if it was an Fw-190d or a Radial 190. Thanks, Bill

drgondog 6th April 2010 02:38

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Beeson's ship on Feb 20 was QP-B 42-7890 P47D-1RE.

As the 10th air score on that day he would have likely had 'nine' in a row of five with a row of four below - all iron cross. The score was an Fw 190A likely a -7, D's didn't enter combat until late November and the 4th didn't get mustangs on ops until the 22(?) or 25(?) of Feb, 1944. ( Iwill have to chaeck on combat ops date with Mustangs)

Peter Randall's website - about halfway down has several photos of Beesons 47 and 51's.

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery.php?Group=4

John Beaman 6th April 2010 02:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by idartist45 (Post 104680)
Going by my reference material it was on Feb. 20th 1944 over Aachen. It was kill no. 10 for Beeson. My info does not say if it was an Fw-190d or a Radial 190. Thanks, Bill

There were no Fw 190D-9 aircraft operational in February 1944.

idartist45 6th April 2010 12:18

Re: Luftwaff Units 1944
 
I am needing possible unit markings/colors for the Fw he shot down. What luftwaffe unit would he have encountered over Aachen?? I have Beesons CORRECT markings, and need to know the 190s possible unit. Thanks Guys. Bill

idartist45 6th April 2010 12:22

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As I live here in Boise Idaho area it is important to get this right, Bill

John Beaman 6th April 2010 14:04

Re: Luftwaff Units 1944
 
Possibly this one. The only one listed from JG 26. JG 11 lost a lot but this area seems the closest match to Aachen.

Fw 190A-6, 470224, Hell, Uffz. Erwin, 6./JG 26, schwarze 2 + -, 20-Feb-44, WIA due to Luftkampf with P-47s from 4th FG. FSA., RLV, Caldwell, JG 26 War Diary, II, p.217, Luenebach-Eifel, 100%

idartist45 6th April 2010 15:58

Re: Luftwaff Units 1944
 
It DOES Pay to ask!! I almost made a fatal error in his aircraft. I need to have the action AFTER March 44 when he was flying the P-51. He didn't shoot down any 190s with the 'BEE" so my choices are one of the 109s a Ju-88 or an He-126. The P-51 is finished, and looks great. Now all I need is to get info on one of the aircraft he shot down, maybe the Ju-88 or He-126. Thank you so much for shaking my tree and opening my eyes. Bill

idartist45 6th April 2010 16:04

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There wasn't an He-126 was there?

idartist45 6th April 2010 17:35

Re: Luftwaff Units 1944
 
Well the Ju-88s were ground kills, so am doing a 109. Finding info now on units. Thanks for your help. Bill

drgondog 6th April 2010 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by idartist45 (Post 104730)
It DOES Pay to ask!! I almost made a fatal error in his aircraft. I need to have the action AFTER March 44 when he was flying the P-51. He didn't shoot down any 190s with the 'BEE" so my choices are one of the 109s a Ju-88 or an He-126. The P-51 is finished, and looks great. Now all I need is to get info on one of the aircraft he shot down, maybe the Ju-88 or He-126. Thank you so much for shaking my tree and opening my eyes. Bill

Beeson received credit (1/3) for a Ju 88 onApril 5 nw of Brandenburg at Plauen A/f where he was shot down by flak. This was at low altitude near the airfield. I have to check whether he was flying a P-51B-7NA on April 5th.

Between March 5 and April 1 he shot down five Me 109s from Bordeaux, to Mannheim to Munster and Lake Constance near Freidrichshafen

All in P-51B-5NA 43-6819 QP-B - this pic is the one on Peter Randall's website.

He shot down seven 109's destroyed plus one damaged and one probable in the P-47C/D's between May 18, 1943 and Jan 31, 1944,

plus four Fw 190s destroyed, two damaged, one probable 190 between Jul 28, 1943 and Feb 20, 1944


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