Bf109G-6 WNr.15706 help info...
 

Hi all,

Any information on the plane and pilot is necessary. Bf109G-6 WNr.15706...? This plane should be from JG52...

As works on a falling place will end, I will lay out all photos... Also plane details, will are exposed on sale at the European auctions.

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Hello Adolf,

Bf 109 G-6 WNr. 15706, yellow 6, 100 %, Uffz. Otto Mixa killed, 8./JG 52
emergency landing after aerial combat on 12 October 1943, "Nowo Saporoshje"
Source: Fast, JG 52, IV p. 114

Hope this helps,

Ota

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Many thanks Ota!!!

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As Mixa is a quite rare name, this might have been a relative of the infamous german bishop Walter Mixa:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mixa

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Hi all!
And where there were airbase III./JG52 at the moment of 12.10.1943?
Regards,
Leo

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Nowo-Zaporoshye

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... which is actually more or less a part of Zaporoshye itself (on the Dnepr river).

So now, I think, it is Adol Mebius' turn:
"As works on a falling place will end, I will lay out all photos... Also plane details, will are exposed on sale at the European auctions."

Hi all. Will re-raise the topic. With a small delay, I will upload photos on Bf109G-6 WNr.15706.

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"yellow 6" and 8. Staffel?

Good evening. I would be happy if you take the race in the subject. Interestingly everything, as for JG52 in the second half of 1943. Maybe someone has pictures of planes and pilots. Very interested biography and photos of the Otto Mixa.

The first day. Exploration of the area in the search area. Test pit. At the site of the fall of the plane, the forest. This will greatly complicate the work on lifting the fighter.

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MCU = Erla machinenwerk Flugzeugbau Leipzig

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correct: Erla Maschinenwerk GmbH Leipzig

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David,
Providing there is no clerk error and no reading error the loss does concern pilot's unit, not machine's unit.... Unless the machine was transferred.

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Second day. Completely started to work. Very strongly interfere with the roots of trees and pressed clay, clotted from the impact of the aircraft.

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Wonder how you hv found the crash site ???? Seems among the trees very deep buried ...??

Rémi

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Local residents. Remained eyewitnesses of the accident. But for some reason, different directions that before the circumstances of the crash. Some say that fire from the ground, other air battle. Two kilometers from the position of antiaircraft artillery. Maybe someone will say exactly by the nature of the damage to the details of the aircraft.

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The third day. We started to dig out the engine. Depth of 8 meters.

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Very interesting search, Otto.

Where will go the parts found ?

GC

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Otto Mixa was transferred to the Volksbund and buried in the German national cemetery in the town of Kirovograd (Kropyvnytskyi).
On the spare parts are possible different options. Probably an auction.

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Wow. So at this point you are looking for just engine components? Everything else has already been recovered?

Fourth day. Nothing special. Next, lift the engine, that's interesting.

Sorry, but I misunderstood you. All found parts and engine are stored. The decision on them has not yet been taken.

Can someone suggest the coloring of this aircraft. Maybe someone has photos at least his unit in the period-autumn 1943.

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I'd guess ... the normal RLM 74/75/76 camouflage with the Erla - mottling ...

Fifth day. As I said, the place of the find me109 forest, to pass by the technique for lifting there was no possibility. Therefore made a decision, do it on their own.

Thank you. And there are pictures of that time, autumn 43? Maybe someone has a photo of the very Otto Mixa.

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Otto,

You can check out what I have for JG 52 in that time frame here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...57640116713505

and check out other Erla produced Bf 109 G-6 in the same W.Nr. batch 157xx here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...57625486305536

Cheers
Marc

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Hello Otto,
First, thank you for posting these interesting photos.
Regarding the DB 605 for this recovery, has it been found and do you have any information on its Motornummer or other data?
Thanks,
Steve Sheflin

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Hello. The sixth day. Continued to raise the engine. It was necessary partially to fall asleep a pit and to bring down a slope. If I'm not mistaken, the weight of the dry engine is about 800 kilograms plus oil and coolant residues.

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Just like the bergungskommando!

ClinA-78

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:D

Sorry for the delay of messages. Today I will publish the last day of the expedition and start to publish the photo of the found parts of the aircraft.
The seventh day. We gather the camp, all the raised material is sorted and documented. For the arrival of the car had to cut through a 200 meter road in the forest, but that's already so, little things.

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Hello. Many thanks for the very interesting photos.

Photo of personal things of the pilot. Let me remind you, Otto Mixa was transferred to the Volksbund and buried with military honors in the German national cemetery in the town of Kirovograd (Kropyvnytskyi).

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More.

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Fragments of aircraft coloring:

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Motornummer or other data:

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Motornummer part2

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Motornummer part3

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Wonder if they couldn't hv saved a fairly amount of weight ...deleting all the plates..

Rémi