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RudiS 18th July 2010 21:53

French place name?
 
Dear all,

attached is a name of what I believe is a french village. I can make out the following:
"bei h? Val??? de Rose"

Anybody have any idea what the correct name is? I've tried google but came up empty handed.

Thanks in advance,
Rudi.

robert 18th July 2010 22:21

Re: French place name?
 
Hi,

bei St.Valery de Rose?

Regards

Robert

bert68 18th July 2010 22:24

Re: French place name?
 
Hi Rudy
I'm french but that does not help! I must admit I can't read the first word and the one after the "h"...
Do you have anymore indication to help? Are you sure it's a location?
"Valmy" could be the name, but I don't know any place called "Valmy de Rose"...There is a wine called Valmy rosé, though, but I guess that's not what you're looking for...

RT 19th July 2010 00:50

Re: French place name?
 
First is St = saint , Robert seems right, no St Valery de rose/ not even in blue / in France , probably St Valery sur Somme or St Valéry en Caux well known in June 40, the 7 th Panzer took a bath there.

Remi

ouidjat 19th July 2010 00:57

Re: French place name?
 
Hi Rudi,
Two entries (at least) - but both seem to be in Italy - Bose & Bore... Need to know more if you don't mind. It's up to you...
Cheers, Franck.

PS: I'm not sure to read a R as first letter...

RudiS 24th July 2010 19:45

Re: French place name?
 
Thanks everyone for your time & effort. Very much appreciated.

The village is definitely in France, not Italy. I guess Remi is right when he suggests probably St Valery sur Somme or St Valéry en Caux.


Regards,
Rudi.

pilot2 7th November 2011 15:47

Re: French place name?
 
Hello

I think that it's a mixed with Saint-Valéry-en-Caux and Veules-les-Roses, only 7km far between those places.

Regards

Laurent Rizzotti 7th November 2011 16:35

Re: French place name?
 
Another possibility could be "St Valery de l'Oise".

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Valery

RudiS 10th November 2011 21:37

Re: French place name?
 
Yes pilot2, I already came to the same conclusion as you. The picture was taken in one of the 2 villages.

Regards,
Rudi.

CJE 12th November 2011 13:36

Re: French place name?
 
There was a military camp called "Veules-les Roses" near Saint-Valéry-en-Caux.

If it can help...

Chris

RudiS 15th November 2011 19:13

Re: French place name?
 
Thanks Chris,

Do you know what kind of military camp it was?

Regards,
Rudi.

Larry deZeng 15th November 2011 21:23

Re: French place name?
 
Neither of the two locations listed above by CJE appear in Tessin's Band XVI, Teil 4, which includes a 100-page listing of all known German garrisons in France, 1940-44. Since both locations are virtually on the Channel coast, Veules-les-Roses may have been a coast artillery battery or a radar site. If it was any larger than that, I think it would be listed in Tessin.

L.

RudiS 16th November 2011 01:52

Re: French place name?
 
Thanks for the info, Larry.

Regards,
Rudi.

lilsis 16th November 2011 20:28

Re: French place name?
 
Hi

I only have That in 1940 they (german) had near round about5km from St. Valery En caux a landing stripe. Think in 1944 US engineercorps toke over and builded there a Camp

Larry deZeng 16th November 2011 23:43

Re: French place name?
 
The airfield was usually called Paluel by the Germans and Saint-Valery-en-Caux by the Allies. It was all but abandoned from spring 1942 to August 1944 when it was captured.

Paluel (FR) (a.k.a. Saint-Valery-en-Caux) (49 49 45 N – 00 39 00 E)
General: airfield (Fliegerhorst) in NE France 37 km WSW of Dieppe, 6.5 km SW of Saint-Valery-en-Caux, 1.2 km ESE of Paluel.
History: existed as a French military airfield in 1939. The French Air Force ploughed it up and rendered it unserviceable in June 1940, but the Germans restored it several weeks later. It had little activity during the air offensive against England. In July 1941, the Luftwaffe began construction of the concrete runway and over the next 6 to 8 months completed that and began work on a second concrete runway. These development plans were canceled in spring 1942 and the airfield was virtually abandoned except for a small caretaker and guard contingent (Flugplatzkommando). No aircraft were ever noted at Paluel between Jul 41 and Aug 43, and the runway was blocked with obstructions.
Dimensions: 1190 x 1190 meters (1300 x 1300 yards) with a rectangular shape.
Surface and Runways: grass surface with a single concrete runway approx. 1650 meters (1800 yards) in length running ENE/WSW. A perimeter track surrounded the landing area. The runway was equipped with permanent illumination and a visual Lorenz system for night landings.
Fuel and Ammunition: had 3 small ladder-type servicing and refueling hardstands at the SE corner and on the edge of each dispersal area. There was a small ammunition dump in the NW dispersal area and a larger storage area between Cany-Barville and Saint-Valery-en-Caux.
Infrastructure: had 3 small hangars for repairs, one in each dispersal area. Barrack huts were located in the village of Janville off the NW corner, and personnel were probably also accommodated in other nearby villages. A branch rail spur connected the airfield to the Saint-Valery-en-Caux – Rouen line passing 3.25 km to the east.
Dispersal: 3 areas – Northeast, Southeast and Northwest with a total of 21 open aircraft shelters that were well concealed in trees.
Defenses: few if any – airfield abandoned.
Remarks:
15 Mar 44: dive-bombed by 7 x 9th AAF P-47 Thunderbolts – 3 hits scored on the runway. The attack was to deny use of the runway to the enemy should the Luftwaffe decide to reopen Paluel and put it back in service.
Operational Units: none found.
Station Commands: Flugplatzkdo. of Fl.H.Kdtr. E 2/I (1940/41 – Mar 44); Flugplatzkdo. of Fl.H.Kdtr. E(v) 227/XI Le Ployron-Amy (Apr-Aug 44).
Station Units (on various dates – not complete): elements (a Zug or two) of le.Flak-Abt. 732(v) (Jan 42, Feb 43).
[Sources: AFHRA A5260 pp.2372-74 (14 Aug 43); chronologies; BA-MA; NARA; PRO/NA]

RudiS 25th November 2011 15:45

Re: French place name?
 
Thanks everyone for your inputs. Very much appreciated.

Regards,
Rudi.


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