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Richard Mills 24th July 2010 22:57

Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
I am currently researching Feldwebel Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941, shot down by Flak near Nauplion, Greece.

I know that Unertl was flying a Bf-109 E-7 however, I would appreciate it if anyone could identify the Werk Nr. or even the fuselage code of the machine. Furthermore, I would like to find out if possible the details of the JG77 missions for that date.

As always, any help is very well received.

Regards Richard.

Leo Etgen 24th July 2010 23:30

Feldwebel Otto Unertl
 
Hello Richard

This is what I have found concerning the loss list information on this pilot.

25 April 1941: Feldwebel Otto Unertl of 9./JG 77 killed in Bf 109 E-7 (W.Nr. 4921) by Flak near Argos, 100%

I hope this helps.

Horrido!

Leo

Richard Mills 25th July 2010 23:54

Re: Feldwebel Otto Unertl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen (Post 110698)
Hello Richard

This is what I have found concerning the loss list information on this pilot.

25 April 1941: Feldwebel Otto Unertl of 9./JG 77 killed in Bf 109 E-7 (W.Nr. 4921) by Flak near Argos, 100%

I hope this helps.

Horrido!

Leo

Leo that is indeed a help, thank you very much.

Is anyone able to shed any light on III./JG77 field of operations on this and the days leading up to it?

As always, all help will be very well received.

Regards Richard.

tasos greece 29th July 2010 16:46

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Richard send me your e-mail. I have something for you.

Tasos

byron- 3rd August 2010 19:03

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hi Richard,

a pic of Otto`s grave

regards Byron

Richard Mills 7th August 2010 18:08

Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tasos greece (Post 110991)
Richard send me your e-mail. I have something for you.
Tasos

Quote:

Originally Posted by byron- (Post 111300)
Hi Richard,
a pic of Otto`s grave

regards Byron

Tasos and Byron, many thanks indeed for your help with my request.

I am still trying to ascertain the nature of JG77's operations on that day and the immediate days preceeding.

Still hopeful in anticipation.

Regards Richard.

Aviator 12th August 2010 17:02

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hi all!

Does any photo of the loss exist?

regards,

Aviator

Richard Mills 25th August 2010 19:27

Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 111841)
Hi all!
Does any photo of the loss exist?
regards,
Aviator

If this is the case that a photograph or digital image is in circulation of Feldwebel Otto Unertl's aircraft, then I would very much like to see them!

Always hoping!

Regards Richard.

tgsdim 3rd February 2013 19:44

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hi I know that this is un old thread but since I am reserching the the events that took place in my home town Nafplio (also refered as Nauplia or Navplion),

I found some very very interesting pictures in Australian War Museum photo search as in the links below

http://www.awm.gov.au/search/collect...avplion&page=3

The place that the plane crashed is very near to my house

If you have any more info please contact me,

best Regards

Aviator 22nd March 2013 17:41

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hello tgsdim,
Is the place known exactly where the plane came down? Do any story of the locals exist about this?
Regards,

tgsdim 19th April 2013 23:33

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hello Aviator

The place is known and located exactly, http://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces?ll=37.576968,22.809951&spn=0.001278,0.001 808&ctz=-180&t=h&z=19

I spoke to the land owner, he was about 5-6 years old at that time an he only heard the story from his father and friends. They said that the plane was totally destructed and they found only the boots of the pilot

Only this so far...

Erik Mombeeck 21st April 2013 22:03

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hello,

during my researches on JG 77, I have been in touch with Unertl's family.
They had not much, but a document saying the following could be of help for you:
30.12.1941:
Zur Sicherung und Erhaltung der Grabstätte Ihres gefallenen Sohnes musste eine Umbettung vorgenommen werden. Das Grab befindet sich nicht mehr bei Nauplion an der Strasse nach Argos (thus probably where he crashed and was first burried), sondern auf dem Friedhof Argos-Nord.

Hope that it helps.

Best regards

Erik

Aviator 22nd April 2013 18:10

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hello tgsdim and Erik,

Thank you for these details! During these days the Luftwaffe bombed the british positions along the Argos-Nauplia road and especially next to the nearby hills.At least one Stukas crashed there. I suppose the me 109 was hit by Flak and crashed at low altitude.Fact is that he was buried next to te plane and now i read that he was transfered to Argos North.I suppose that more than his boots was found...
Is there any chanche for more info/material from the family? Where is the famiy living?

Regards,
Aviator

tgsdim 22nd April 2013 22:22

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Dear all,
appart from the very informative awm pictures during me internet search found

also thesehttp://forum.12oclockhigh.net/data:i...RUNJO5ad0f/9k=http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/data:i...FrjwOB/Gs4r//Z

tgsdim 22nd April 2013 22:28

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
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Aviator 23rd April 2013 14:44

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Thank you for the pics.Is this location shown in the pic the one you described above?

Regards

tgsdim 23rd April 2013 19:00

Re: Fw. Otto Unertl 9./JG77 KIA 25-April-1941
 
Hi Aviator,
the location is the one I gave further up.

The town of Argos and more precisely, a small village called "fihtia" had a gravel air strip used initially by the British and after from the Germans as a air-base (used also during the battle of Crete), must be the place were Otto was re-burried after a period of some months from the crash, according to the "new data".
I have some problems with google earth, once solved, I can mark the position of the flak , the ship which was bombed and the crash position.


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