Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941 (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=22343)

Boris 14th September 2010 13:45

Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Hi all,

I am looking for any information regarding crash of Fi 156 that happened on June 27, 1941. Crew of Uffz. Hillemann (FF), Uffz. Reiher (BM) and Maj. Ernst Hahn (CO of Luftnachrichten-Regiment 22) died.

Thank you in advance.

Boris

John Beaman 14th September 2010 15:30

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
some help:

Fi 156, 5177, n.n., Lg.Stab z.b.V.40, 27-Jun-41, Bruchlandung., Lfl.4/Eins., Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, Torezyn, 25%, H

Matti Salonen 18th September 2010 19:26

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Correct aircraft is Fi 156C-1, WNr. 707, which was shot down at Maciuki, southwest of Surwiliszki.

Regards,

Matti

Norbert Schuchbauer 19th September 2010 17:59

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
The date was the 24th of June 1941.

Norbert

Matti Salonen 19th September 2010 21:21

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Could you confirm that date. NVM gives 27th.

Matti

Boris 27th September 2010 08:17

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Hi,

thank you all for your inputs.

Matti, do you know the first names of Uffz. Hillemann and Reiher? To which unit they belonged to? Was the plane shot down by e/a, or from the ground? Thanks.

Boris

Matti Salonen 27th September 2010 09:46

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Siegfried Hillemann and Gebhard Reiher.

NVM gives Ln.-Rgt. 22 and Absturz infolge Feindbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.

Regards,

Matti

Norbert Schuchbauer 27th September 2010 18:24

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
According to Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (IC) Nr. 3490/41 dated 30 Jun 1941 entry 67. it is the 24th. [RL 2 III 754 and RL 2 III 1177]

Regards,
Norbert

Stig Jarlevik 27th September 2010 19:39

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Guys

How come the sources differ so much with regard to the WNr?
John says 5177 and Matti 707?
Which one is correct?

Cheers
Stig

Boris 28th September 2010 09:06

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
1 Attachment(s)
Hi all!

Matti, thank you very much for additional information.

Norbert, on eBay I recently bought a photo of the grave of these men. It states that they died on 27. 6. 1941. (See attached photo thumbnail.)

Boris

Norbert Schuchbauer 2nd October 2010 05:12

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Could well be that the crash was on the 24th and they died of their injuries on the 27th. But anyones is a good guess.

Regards,
Norbert

Doug Stankey 2nd October 2010 05:53

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Here is what we have about Hahn:


HAHN, Ernst.
11.39 Maj. and Kdr. Ln.-Abt. (mot) z.b.V., appt Kdr. I./Ln.-Versuchs-Rgt.
c.01.04.41 Maj., appt Kdr. Ln.-Rgt. 22 (to 24.06.41 KIA – in Fi 156 crash near Lida/NE Poland).

That's all we have about this fellow.

HLdZ
DGS

Matti Salonen 2nd October 2010 10:30

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
This is not first time when NVM contains different info from GQM reports. However, I consider NVMs more reliable, although even they can be erroneous. In this case 27.06.1941 seems to be correct for the following reasons:
- there were three persons in the aircraft and all of them were reported to be dead in the crash
- Major Hahn is reported in a separate NVM as the others and all have the same death date
- grave of Major Hahn has this date.
Until firm evidence to support 24.06 can be found, I'll keep my present info in my files.

Regards,

Matti

WAG1967 10th December 2010 10:23

Re: Fi 156 crash on June 27, 1941
 
Hello,

ich spreche nur Deutsche. Ich habe zufalligerweise dieses Thema "Fi 156 crash on June 27" gefunden. Das Dorf Maciuki liegt in unserer Gegend in Belarus, ganz in der Nahe an Litauen.
Das Flugzeug war nach Beschuss durch sowjetische 12. Schützendivision abgesturzt.

Gruus aus Belarus
Andrej


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:36.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2026, 12oclockhigh.net