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Brian 25th September 2010 23:44

TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Hi guys

A TBF Avenger of VT-10 (No.45) flown by Lt (jg) Largess from USS Enterprise was attacked and damaged by an F6F Hellcat off New Guinea.

Can anyone please advise the date of the incident, and perhaps the identity of the F6F pilot?

Cheers
Brian

Leendert 27th September 2010 14:11

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Brian,

When you mention New Guinea and USS Enterprise, then presumably in the 21-24 April 1944 timeframe when the carrier was involved in the Hollandia landings.

Regards,

Leendert

twocee 27th September 2010 21:24

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
The incident happened on April 23, 1944 and the offending Hellcat pilot was LtCdr. E.C. Outlaw, C.O. of VF32, off Langley.

Brian 1st October 2010 12:37

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Many thanks leendert and George

Another query satisfactorily closed.

Cheers
Brian

Frank Olynyk 2nd October 2010 17:05

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
George,

Eddie Outlaw being an ace, I would be very interested in a source for your comment. I checked my VF-32 records and found no reference. I do not yet have the VT-10 records, and have not looked at the CVG-10 records to see if there is a reference there.

Frank Olynyk.
Historian, American Fighter Aces Association.

Brian 2nd October 2010 17:36

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Hi Frank

Is the name OUTLOW or OUTLAW?

Cheers
Brian

Frank Olynyk 2nd October 2010 17:46

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Brian,
Sorry about that. It was a typo on my part, now corrected. His name is in fact Outlaw. He eventually made Rear Admiral, and died in 1996.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Brian 2nd October 2010 17:56

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Thanks Frank

Was Outlaw an ace when he engaged the Avenger?

Cheers
Brian

PS: I have just Googled and found an entry for him. On 29/4/44 he led eight Hellcats against 36 Zeros, of which 22 destroyed and eight probables were claimed! Five and one probable by LtCdr Outlaw!! How do these claims stand up against Japanese losses?

Frank Olynyk 2nd October 2010 18:13

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Brian,
As you noted, he claimed 5/1/0 on April 29, 1944 at 0750 at Truk, and a sixth on June 11, 1944 at Saipan. I have no idea how well these claims match Japanese losses. You could check the original edition, from USNI, of Hata and Izawa's book on Japanese Naval Units and Aces; or wait for the second edition coming soon from Grub Street.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Brian 2nd October 2010 20:05

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Thanks again, Frank

Trust you are well.

Cheers
Brian

twocee 2nd October 2010 20:49

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Frank,

My information about Outlaw comes from another VF32 pilot, Richard May, who mentions it in his book "Hell Above", published 2004.

Frank Olynyk 2nd October 2010 23:00

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
George,

Thanks for the information. I will have to check with Dick when I get a chance, and also fish out his book (which I saw recently here someplace, really I did!). Also have to check the VT-10 records when I get to them.

Enjoy!

Frank.

Gunther 21st June 2011 05:01

Re: TBF Avenger of VT-10 damaged by F6F
 
Eddie Outlaw was a controversial character--not loved by his squadron but he stood up for the troops while running TF-77 in the Tonkin Gulf c. 1966. After the Chinese began harassing USN aircraft he authorized a couple of fighter sweeps over Hainan, and things settled down for awhile.

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