JU88 marked L1#PL history needed
 

Hi Guys.
I am new on this forum :)
Is it possible to track down the history of a JU88 marked L1#PL.
I would like to know how this JU88 ended the war.
Best regards
Stengaard

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Hi
Allways possible to search, not allways possible to found ...
So NJG 3
You dont'have the wk nummer ?
1- searching in loss datas
2- Searching in Crashed Ennemy Reports, number of Ju 88 was found by allieds on diverses GAF Airfields, by exemple on Alhorn Airfield (diverses ju 88 and L1+ are found, but code ##+## is not allways write ) some wk are given, but we need make correllation ...
3-Searching in diverses books and publications about NJG and unity especially .
Bsrg, Dan

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Hi Dan.

So it is NJG3 - interesting ;)

Yes, I have the wk number: 886612

Best regards & thanks
Stengaard

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Hmm. V.(Z)/LG1 was redesignated I./NJG3 on 1.10.40, which would account for the L1 coding, but surely if it's now in NJG3 it should have been re-coded D5?

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Yes, L1 code with NJG3,LG 1, I./St.G.5, III./KG6 briethly ...
so it's more sure to searching with Wk nummer ...
Bsrg, Dan

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The reason why I am interested in the history of this JU88, is because I have found some LW plain parts, this is one of them:

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Seeing the date of 12.3.45 at the bottom of the table (which seems to relate to calibrating the compass and/or autopilot), I'd think that L1+PL was an aircraft of 3./LG 1 but I'm not up on the 886 000 Werk Nummer series — does anyone know which sub-type that was?

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The original WNr. is likely 6612, with the prefix 88 added after the Lw started reporting 6 digit WNr. I have neither one in my db. Wher were the parts found?

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Hi, perhaps one A-4 certainly LG1, i have one A-4 with wk 6611(KG51)
Amic, Dan

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I think the parts were found in Denmark. There are 3 parts, maybe they are from the same plane ? Here are the last 2, maybe someone here can ID them to be JU88 parts ?

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About 2 lasts pics, the first is one head from one pump for benzine tank, certainly lateral (in wings), why not for ju 88 ... (part 13 on my draw)
i can't read the number completly, and i have'nt all the parts lists for ju 88 ...
Certainly ju 88 parts for the 3 materials .
The first where the ##+## code is write is a part from one notkompass Fk 38, the most important number for identify this part is FL nummer, in top right, code for FK 38 is FL 23233 ...
After many hours, I found nothing more about the code and wk nummer, sorry ...
So ; Ju 88 certainly A-4, LG1, III. certainly, and nothing more for me for moment ...
Bsrg, Dan

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Ju 88 W.Nr. 0886612 was assembled by Heinkel at Oranienburg late in 1941, and was A-4 version (at least originally), Stkz. RF+OL. It is known at Rechlin in 02.09.42. If this is one of the several old and recoditioned A-4´s assigned LG 1 in late 1944 / early 1945 I do not know (but likely, maybe, it simply kept old code in spring 1945). No fate is recorded.

It is wrong "thenem" says Luftwaffe added 88 to the Ju 88 werknumbers later in the war. They were such all the time, as 088xxxx in fact (just dependent on what factory assembled them), early documents generally only gave last four, later when more ´last four´ collided, then more precicision was needed. Even today many fates I have collide as only last four given and same version. Many, many dataplates and component W.Nr.´s markings confirm this.

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Adding to my post from last night: Sorry for typo, I ment thenelm of course.

By mid 1944 I Gruppen / LG 1 was re-equipped with the newest version of Ju 88, the S-3 (Jumo 213 engines) but as supplies of these ran out they got older machines again, e.g. nine A-4´s in December.

http://www.ww2.dk/air/lehr/lg1.htm

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/kampf/bilg1.html

It is of course possible this A-4 had been with I/LG 1 prior to re-equip with S-3´s (July 44) and had been in repair for the duration.

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More than nine: see the bottom of this page.

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http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/kampf/bilg1.html I Gruppen.

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/kampf/biilg1.html II Gruppen.

Nick

I was referring to I Gruppen (relevant to L1+PL with 3. Staffeln code), Your list (a good list from Ultra) records 13 (part of them). Total 9 to I Gruppen and 17 to II Gruppen make total of 26. Maybe there is another list there somewhere? Tonight I will check records and count how many (if any) was assigned in 1945. Besides, 301558 became L1+BM of II Gruppen (many photos of this have appeared, one recently on eBay - so were these all II Gruppen in your list?)


ed

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Checked January 1945 and found 22 more Ju 88 A-4´s assigned LG 1, one Ju 88 S-1 assigned also 20.01.45. No W.Nr.s in these listings, only qty and unit assigned.

None found assigned LG 1 in February, March and April.

I/LG 1 surrendered to Canadian troops at Varel in April 1945.

One Ju 88 (301533) was found brunt out at Alhorn before 05.05.45, and Ju 88 A-4 301558 L1+BM at unconfirmed location (Austria?)

The A-4 140130 ex-Stab./LG 1 was flown to Norway 05.05.45

These are just bits and pieces picked up tonight.