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hucks216

18th October 2010 12:01

Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

I am looking for details with regards to the shooting down of a Luftwaffe pilot. The airman, Wilhelm Meyer, was serving with 2./Kuestenfliegergruppe 406 at the time. Thanks to his Soldbuch, www.ww2.dk , Volksbund database & www.luftwaffe.no I have been able to find out that he was shot down & killed (along with his crew member Willi Seedorf) while piloting an Arado-196A-3 WkNr 0318 in the vicinity of Hustadvika in Norway on 14th June 1943, but is there any on-line resource/publication where I can find out which Allied squadron was responsible for the attack?
I had originally thought it might of been an aircraft from the Banff Strike Wing but having checked they weren't operational at the time with RAF Banff only being officially opened in April 1943 and the Mosquitos & Beaufighters not arriving until September 1943.
Any pointers are much appreciated.

Eric-Jan Bakker

18th October 2010 19:28

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

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Originally Posted by hucks216 (Post 115519)

I am looking for details with regards to the shooting down of a Luftwaffe pilot. The airman, Wilhelm Meyer, was serving with 2./Kuestenfliegergruppe 406 at the time. Thanks to his Soldbuch, www.ww2.dk , Volksbund database & www.luftwaffe.no I have been able to find out that he was shot down & killed (along with his crew member Willi Seedorf) while piloting an Arado-196A-3 WkNr 0318 in the vicinity of Ved Hustadvika in Norway on 14th June 1943, but is there any on-line resource/publication where I can find out which Allied squadron was responsible for the attack?
I had originally thought it might of been an aircraft from the Banff Strike Wing but having checked they weren't operational at the time with RAF Banff only being officially opened in April 1943 and the Mosquitos & Beaufighters not arriving until September 1943.
Any pointers are much appreciated.

Hi,

I thought that it was ......"thanks to his Wehrpaß" !!!, see last update at Weitze !

https://www.weitze.net/detail/54/Weh...6__148854.html

Are you the lucky buyer ?

yours friendly

Eric-Jan

Chris Goss

18th October 2010 19:41

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

I have no Coastal Command combats that match on that day

hucks216

18th October 2010 19:55

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

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Originally Posted by Eric-Jan Bakker (Post 115547)

Hi,

I thought that it was ......"thanks to his Wehrpaß" !!!, see last update at Weitze !

https://www.weitze.net/detail/54/Weh...6__148854.html

Are you the lucky buyer ?

yours friendly

Eric-Jan

That's the one - not sure where I got soldbuch from! It should be with me tomorrow as I received the Fedex email today. I couldn't resist it, that he flew something abit different from the normal ones you see for He-111 or Ju-88 aircrew appealed to me.

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Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 115549)

I have no Coastal Command combats that match on that day

Thank you Chris - it lists his death as being 'Shot down in air combat' on the Luftwaffe In Norway site. On that day it also lists a Bv-138 as being lost in air combat and a Me-109 from II/JG 5 (lost in combat with a P39) but looking at Google Earth the location of his death is approx 470km North-East of the Shetlands so it wouldn't of been a Soviet fighter. I wonder what the Fleet Air Arm were up to that day?

mhuxt

19th October 2010 07:02

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

A Mosquito of 333 Squadron made a claim that day, but from the type and location of the claim, it's more likely to have been the Bv 138.

hucks216

19th October 2010 12:58

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

Thanks for that - the Bv-138 from Ku.Fl.Gr 706 is listed as being hit in location Pl.Qu. 05 Ost/6988 but with no personnel injuries and 15% damage but at least it shows that the RAF were active off the Norwegian coast that day.

lilsis

19th October 2010 15:04

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

HI,

he wasnt shot down.

In the letter stand:

..flown air protection he was already a 3/4 hour at the escort if he suddenly from a curve fell.

hucks216

19th October 2010 16:02

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

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Originally Posted by lilsis (Post 115590)

HI,
he wasnt shot down.

In the letter stand:

..flown air protection he was already a 3/4 hour at the escort if he suddenly from a curve fell.

Thanks for the pointer - I have now attempted to translate that part of the letter which states...

"...the crash even more inexplicable. Wlhelm flew air cover for a convoy. He was already hanging 3 / 4 hour at the convoy when he suddenly crashed in a curve. Immediately to the accident site....could recover only the body of our dear comrades."

But the Kracker Archive has the following... KIA 14 June, 1943; shot down by Soviet fighters near Hustadvika. His Observer, Uffz Willi Seedorf, was also killed. Source: SIG Norway. ...but unless there is another Hustadvika in Norway (which doesn't show on Google Earth) the area of his crash seems to be out of range for Soviet fighters.

Brian

19th October 2010 17:30

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

Hi Hucks

Have you ruled out that he might have been shot down by friendly fire from the convoy he was protecting? It happened to RAF aircraft on many occasions!

Cheers
Brian

hucks216

19th October 2010 17:54

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

I hadn't actually thought of that but it is certainly a possibility.
I have emailed the owner of the Luftwaffe In Norway site asking him what the air combat loss is based on so hopefully he will be able to help clarify the issue.

mhuxt

19th October 2010 18:22

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

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Originally Posted by hucks216 (Post 115588)

That fits with the 333 Sqn. claim. They attacked what they took to be a Do 24 not far from the Lister peninsula, and saw it fly off smoking. They didn't pursue it, as they were dogfighting a pair of 190s which they'd seen before making their attack.

lilsis

19th October 2010 20:53

Re: Shot Down Ku.Fl.Gr 406 Pilot Question

Hi again,

u translate a bit higher in the letter too?

...vor allen Dingen bei den Einsätzen im Osten und Norwegen hat er sich als ganz hervorragendener Flugzeugführer bewährt. Ich bin selbst Flugzeugfü......fachmännisches Urteil erlauben zu können.

Deshalb ist mir auch der Absturz selbst so unerklärlich
therefore i cant myself explain the crash

LG

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