Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Hi there folks,

I'm seeking the latest update regarding known Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks for the Mtt Regensburg, Erla and WNF productions.

Many thanks in advance
Marc

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

WNF covered 610300 to 613200

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Thanks, Harrison987!

Marc

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Hello Marc,

That's all what I have; hope it's enough. Have nothing in MTT Regensburg.

G-10 490130 to 490399 Erla Maschinenwerk GmbH, Leipzig
G-10/R6 490400 to 490799 Erla Maschinenwerk GmbH, Leipzig
G-10/R6 491100 to 491500 Erla Maschinenwerk GmbH, Leipzig
G-10/U4 610300 to 611099 Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke
G-10/U4 611900 to 612010 Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke
G-10/U4 612700 to 613199 Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke
G-10/R2 770100 to 770399 Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke
G-10/R2 770900 to 771199 Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke

Regards, Franck.

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Magique Franck!

Thanks so much for your informations. Is your source JC Mermet's publication on late Bf 109 G and K variants?

Cheers
Marc

Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Hi guys

Another list that I have come across gives the following as planned werknummern blocks for the Bf 109 G-10:

Messerschmitt Regensburg
130 000 - 130 500

Erla Leipzig
150 700 - 151 000
151 500 - 152 000
490 000 - 490 800
491 000 - 491 600

Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke
610 300 - 610 600
610 900 - 611 000
611 900 - 612 000
612 700 - 613 000
613 000 - 613 300
770 000 - 770 400
770 900 - 771 000
771 000 - 771 200

I have no idea how accurate this information is but perhaps it can be of some help.

Horrido!

Leo

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Bonjour Marc,

No; Falcon site and Van Gogh Stkz data base (The last one: update 30/09/2010). Both give the same list with same batches/ranges.
Site Stammkennzeichen.de is giving something but just a Stkz list (very short one inside the upper ranges) without WNr and without references to factory(ies).
Will ask JCM, thought I don't know if he will answer since I still didn't buy his book ;)... But he is well educated and he will answer, anyway.

A toute, Franck.

PS: Try Fernandino!? Not a good idea?

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Hello Marc & Leo,

Funny I have one 612269 - which is not included in our respecting lists! Gelbe 12, in Neubiberg; the one on top of a Me262, Hungarian AF...
I'm going to continue to check.

You're right, we need an update! immediately!

Cheers, Franck.

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

... One 151562, Gelbe 8... I'm sure it's a Fernandino picture.
etc... Many more in Leo's list range: is another good step!
Regards, Franck.

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Yellow 12 was 612769, not 612269...

:)


Mike

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Hello Mike,

Was it? There is something roten in the kingdom of Internet then. OK, will check again and again as usual.
Thanks Mike, if you're right either I did a mistake when keeping this number or this mistake is running since long and you're the first to point it!
Thanks again.

Franck;

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

For Regensburg I have:

130 110 ‑ 130 355

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Many many thanks, Mike, Franck, Leo and Ferdinando!

All your inputs are highly appreciated. My aim is to slowly build up an open photographic reference library including all Bf 109 G-10's which W.Nr. are known and thus identified by producers. A long task but one I do feel useful to further our comprehension of those machines.

I will keep you updated of the progresses made. Thanks again!

Cheers
Marc

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

UH! I keep in mind: "Slowly" and "Long task". Good definitions! And tiring aren't they?

See u lata' Alligata' (some Fort Lauderdale remembrance)

Franck.

Re: Messerschmitt, Erla and WNF Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. blocks
 

Hello All,

Some G-10 are documented in LEMB Stkz database (see Peter van Gogh site/Excel sheets for sources) between 130355 & 130500 (Last figure given by Leo Etgen in these columns) they are:
130357/13./JG27, 130359/JG27, 130361/16./JG27, 130362/1.JG4, 130367/JG27?, 130369/NSGr.10 (Though it seems Marc does prefer 130368 and NGJ 11!), 130494, Gefr. Julius Leitner, Weisse 1, on 27/12/44.

Regards, Franck.