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Roger Gaemperle 10th November 2010 18:28

Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Hello,

Does anybody have information about Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683?

Thank you!

Roger

JoMe 11th November 2010 13:16

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Hi

I have only an entry with production and acceptance flight on 27. May 1944 at Amberg. The plane was produced by Mtt-Regensburg and wears the SKZ: KM + JC.

JoMe

Thomas S. 11th November 2010 19:06

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Hi,

I have the following:

WNr: 163 683: G-6; white 10; 1./ JG 3, Lt. Paul Honle, KIA 21.01.1944, about 11:50 a.m. in a dogfight with P-47 of 356th FG (Lt. Milton Erickson and Lt. Raymond Gansberg) near Gottem (near Gent/ Belgium)

But I´m sorry, I didn´t note the source for this (I think it was somewhere here in this forum)

May be, somebody can confirm.

Hope that helps.

Thomas

Roger Gaemperle 11th November 2010 22:39

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Hi JoMe,

Thanks for the information! Interesting. Do you know the source for this information? I guess it is a flight log, but of whom?

Hi Tomas,

That is also interesting. I have the W.Nr. from a photo of a Bf 109 that was photographed at the end of the war, so either I misinterpreted the W.Nr. or there is a mistake in the loss entry of White 10. The W.Nr. is quite clear and I don't think I read it wrongly.

Cheers,
Roger

Rasmussen 11th November 2010 22:54

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle (Post 116955)
Thanks for the information! Interesting. Do you know the source for this information? I guess it is a flight log, but of whom?

I'd guess it's the flight log of Paul Bergmann (but he didn't mention the W.Nr.).

Best wishes
Rasmussen

thenelm 12th November 2010 02:09

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
I don't (or didn't) have that have that WNr., or that pilot, in my database - missing from the usual sources. Jim P.

ouidjat 12th November 2010 12:07

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Hi there,

So, this G-6 made an acceptance flight on "27. May 1944 at Amberg" (JoMe) and was shot down on "21/1/1944" (Thomas). Did I miss something? Explain me please.

Regards, Franck.

Matti Salonen 12th November 2010 12:41

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
NVM gives the following:
1944-01-24, 1./JG 3, Bf 109G-6, 160683, 10 weiße, Bei Gottem, 20 km südwestlich Gent, Absturz nach Luftkampf. Bruch 100 %.
F Lt Hönle, Paul, tot

Matti

ouidjat 12th November 2010 12:55

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Ach, Thanks Matti,

Not the same plane then...

Franck.

RT 12th November 2010 13:18

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
For sure a plane produced in april could hardly crashed in January...

JG3 lost a lot of Bf109 around this number in June 44..

What do you hv founded about this one Roger ??

Rémi

Thomas S. 12th November 2010 18:48

Re: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163683
 
Hi,

I think, there is a big mistake in my replay. I also noted the difference between acceptance date and my loss-date (but only, after setting the replay).:o
So Matti may be right with his WNr.

Thomas


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