INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Hi,

Could anyone provide information over the loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber. Hwas killed in an airdeath on the 31st December 1941.

I believe he was a fighter pilot with JG52 and was killed 3km south of Merkutschewa in Russia.

Can you provide details about his aircraft and how he was killed.

Many thanks

Rick

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

1-1-1942 bei Wjasna Crash due to icing of Fw 58 2184 of I/JG52 on an 'H' flight - Ff Uffz Bernhard Sareiake, B Ltn Siegfried Wikesek, Bm Uffz Johann Bauhuber, Bf Uffz Walter Kuhn all killed.

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Thanks Brian but what is an 'H Flight'?

Rick

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Hi Rick,

The loss returns define a flight by 'F' for Feindflug which is an operational/combat flight or mission, or 'H' for Heimat flight which is a training ,exercise, or transfer flight. So this flight could have been something like a communication flight,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Hi,

Bauhuber was an experienced flier with medals and missions over Pol;and, France, England and Russia. Was he wounded and on ambulance flight or was he instructor?

Any ideas?

rick

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Brian

Barbas has quite different spelling of two of the involved pilots.
Uffz Bernhard Serzisko
Lt Siegfried Mikosek

He also lists Walter Kuhn as a Fw.

Were there only two types of flying at the front, F and H? To me what first springs to mind by using the term Heimat flight is that this is a flight home to have some leave.

Cheers
Stig

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Stig,

The GQM entries are ofton smudged or hard to read. I have looked this one up again and as far as I can make out it is Ff Uffz Bernhard Sereiske ( although the last e of the surname could be an o), I still see the B as Ltn Siegfried Wikesek ( again the first e in the surname could be an o and the W could be an N I do not read it as an M). My mistake with Walter Kuhn who is shown as a Fw. As far as I understand the 'H' indicating a Heimat flight appears to indicate any non-operational flight such as a training, communication or transfer flight, I think this has been covered before in a previous thread.,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Rick, the Fw 58 was one of the type used as servitude planes by frontline units, to carry personnel and small amounts of supplies between bases. It was often used to carry pilots as passengers to a rear area base, from where they will fly new replacement aircraft. Or it could be a base change and the unit had more pilots than aircraft (something very usual), so some pilots will be flown as passengers in this kind of plane.

On the other hand, Bauhuber is not shown as a pilot or a passenger but as a flying engineer in the losslist.

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Thanks Brian

I notice Barbas has opted to use the same names as once used by Niko Fast in his six volume JG 52 history

Cheers
Stig

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

In NVM the names are Mikosek and Serzisko.

Matti

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Hi Matti,

I guess an NVM outclasses the GQM for spelling of names, does the NVM indicate if these two were ethnic German, or allies serving in the Luftwaffe,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

In general, sorties designated as 'H' - Heimat basically refer to a non-combat flight as someone stated earlier - the literal translation of 'home' isn't applicable. It appears to apply to any training, courier, airfield orientation or other such type of flight where there was no expectation of contact with the enemy. On the other hand any standard patrol, escort or sortie where there existed potential for contact with the enemy might be expected were designated as 'F' - Feindflug. With the Schulen losses such flights where there may be contact with the enemy were designated as a flight type of 'E'. I haven't figured that one out yet. For general Schule flights there so no designation as far as the losses are concerned. It is, or can be, confusing.

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Thanks everyone who responded to my statements, and especially Brian who sent me a scan from his vast collection.

Looking at the document he works from, I can readily understand his problems but in this case I have to agree that NVM clerks probably were more careful than GQM with regard to spelling, but on the other hand, what do I know?...

With regard to the Heimat flight I seem to be overruled by experience ( :)) and accept that such flights not necessarily ment homeward bound trips. However since the crew were four pilots, I don't think it was an ordinary routine flight, but it feels better to fit into an resupply flight to bring back more frontline Bf's from some rear area depot.

Thanks again Guys
Cheers
Stig

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 

Stig, when I mentioned confusing? If you have any logbooks, note the different flight types - Platzflug, Sperrflug, Alarmstart, Kurierflug, etc. There's lots of them. And when there is a corresponding loss, Heimat or Feindflug as reported by the Gen.Qu. data, and trying to match that to the FB flight type? Some, such as Einsatz or Alarmstart are self-evident, but many of the others, Sheesh. I'm sure that there may be some here that know what all that means, but I'm not one of them.