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ddude72 11th December 2010 02:53

Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Hi guys,
Just wanted to share few pics which were taken during WW2 at Helsinki Malmi airfield.
Some taken by unknown and some by my grandfather who was a field master over there at that time.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rkh1939/...ieldDuringWW2#

chuckschmitz 11th December 2010 03:08

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Thanks for sharing.

Chuck

gilles collaveri 11th December 2010 19:12

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Gorgeous, great quality pictures, thanks !

GC

Flitzer 12th December 2010 01:21

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Excellent quality unpublished photographs that would make a very nice addition to quite a few libraries were it available. And a big, "Yes", you should print.

Pilot 12th December 2010 11:47

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Image of Viima is so interesting!

Mirek Wawrzynski 12th December 2010 20:12

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
I wonder wform which period these photos come from?
I think that some were made in summer 1941 (like German Ju 88 or Do 17 Z) but other ones?
Have you any information about this?

Regards
mirekw

ddude72 14th December 2010 05:07

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek Wawrzynski (Post 118845)
I wonder wform which period these photos come from?
I think that some were made in summer 1941 (like German Ju 88 or Do 17 Z) but other ones?
Have you any information about this?

Regards
mirekw

Unfortunately I do not know exact dates, exept two:

Picture 29 Focke Wulf Fw200 Condor

KE+IX is same plane which Hitler used when he visted Finland to
celebrate Mannerheim´s 75th birthday.
Mannerheim also used this same plane during his visit to Germany, later on the same year.
FMP - 4.6.1942

Video where Mannerheim returns, KE+IX is clearly seen on background.
Video: Väsynyt Mannerheim saapuu vierailulta Hitlerin luota ? Suomenkuvalehti.fi

So it´s most likely taken 27.6.1942

Picture 7 If this is crash of Heribert Koller it is taken 18.6.1944
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=4036

Rest of pics mainly during the war so most likely 1939-1944.

Kari Lumppio 14th December 2010 08:47

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Hello!

I would say majority of the "German" photos are from June-July 1941 from the time when KGr 806 with Ju 88s was there.

On picture 13 background it might me one of the three KGr 506 Ju 88 planes attached to KGr 806.

Picture 14 is German aerial mine? Experts surely can give the type.

Finnish fighters without yellow nose but with yellow ring on fuselage and underside wing tips are from period June-September 1941.

Picture 7 I would say is more likely from July 3th, 1941. The smoke column comes from Malmi town/railway station (direction, at least). On the day at 14.00 o'clock Finnish time two Soviet I-153 strafed the airfield and the hills around plus Malmi town. At Malmi town a chemical factory was set ablaze and burned to ground. Source for this is war diary of Malmi tower or personal diary of a air traffic controller. IIRC held at Helsinki city archive? I have only copies received from a friend.

Personally I am most interested about this photo:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nKMnLNAz5mE/SP...neet%20015.jpg
Is this Me 110 +KP one which took part on the Beowulf operation? That was operation to take the Estonian islands September-October 1941. BTW what was II/ZG 26 unit code at the time?


All in all very interesting selection of great photos. Kiitos.

Cheers,
Kari

Mirek Wawrzynski 14th December 2010 13:32

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Looking at the picture, I have such feeling, that quite many of them were done on summer 1941. Some markings on German planes fit, for me, to my theory, but of course this is only speculation.

FW 200, I think too, it was done during Hitler visit in Finland too.

Regards,
mirekw

yogybär 14th December 2010 14:23

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ddude:
Really phantastic pictures, thank you for sharing!

ddude72 14th December 2010 14:33

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kari Lumppio (Post 118926)

Picture 7 I would say is more likely from July 3th, 1941. The smoke column comes from Malmi town/railway station (direction, at least). On the day at 14.00 o'clock Finnish time two Soviet I-153 strafed the airfield and the hills around plus Malmi town. At Malmi town a chemical factory was set ablaze and burned to ground. Source for this is war diary of Malmi tower or personal diary of a air traffic controller. IIRC held at Helsinki city archive? I have only copies received from a friend.

Could be that one too because the direction fits to both incidents,
I guess we will never be sure which one.
(Funny thing is that my parents still live only 100m away from Koller´s crash site.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek Wawrzynski (Post 118941)
FW 200, I think too, it was done during Hitler visit in Finland too.

Small correction, Hitler visited Immola not Malmi. (It was 6th of June)
Mannerheim took off from Malmi and returned 27th of June.
If you look at the video you can see that it has rained and concrete tiles are all wet.
In a pic, sun has started to shine but tiles are still partially wet.
So that is why I think it is taken just after Mannerheims visit to Germany.

Raimo Malkamäki 16th December 2010 21:51

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Hello ddude72,

when Heribert Koller was in Finland in last September, we visited his crash place at Malmi with a small group. One of us was a person who was involved in the search process when Koller´s FW 190 was "re-found" in 2006.

This person told us that he knows another person, living very close to the crash site, who has a picture which was taken right after the crash. This photograph is supposed to show the burning remains of "Black 12", the machine of Koller. For some reason, the person who has this photograph, is not willing to show it to anybody.

Do you happen to know anything about this? I know that this might be just a rumour, but if it is true, that photograph would be very interesting to see, not least for Mr Koller himself!

Best regards,
Raimo Malkamäki

ddude72 22nd December 2010 23:47

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Hi Raimo,
I heard when you visited the crash site.
My father was also there,not one of your group though.
(But like I said he lives only 100 m away...)

I have never heard of that kind of photo, but I will do some investigation.
I will keep you all informed!

ddude72 10th January 2011 01:12

Re: Helsinki Malmi airfield random pics
 
Hi Raimo,
I have been asking about the picture you´ve mentioned but unfortunately no one knows anything about it.

Still, one interesting thing came up:
One local resident has a machine gun barrel from Koller´s plane(!)

He is not willing to sell it but I will ask If I can take photo if it.

RolandF 10th January 2011 10:53

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KE+IX is Hitler´s personal transport, a Fw 200 C-3/U9 sub-version, W.Nr. 2000099

Regards

Roland


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