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Early FW 190 listings
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Hi everyone,
I thought I’d post my Focke-Wulf 190 A-0 and A-1 listings here. The sources that I’ve consulted are listed at the bottom of each document, and all comments and additions are very welcome. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications – www.airwarpublications.com |
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Call sign SB + II of Fw 190A-0, W.Nr. 0029, is documented by flight log Niggemeyer.
Best wishes Rasmussen |
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Hi Rasmussen,
Thanks for that bit of information - I'll include it in the next update to the FW 190 A-0 listing. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com |
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I noticed that you did not reference "Focke-Wulf Fw 190/ Ta 152" by Griehl and Dressel (1995, Motorbuch Verlag). It has photos and charts relating to both models.
I can scan if you would like. Don |
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Hi Dénes,
Thanks for that - every little bit helps. Would you mind listing your source? If anyone has information about the following FW 190 A-1s, I'd love to hear from you. These are the only A-1s for which I currently have no information: 0110 003 0110 004 0110 014 0110 016 0110 045 0110 065 0110 077 0110 083 0110 090 0110 097 Cheers, Andrew A. |
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Almost all built Fw 190 A-0/A-1 appear in the weekly reports of the technical department of BMW. Here is an example of the 6th week in 1941: Fw 190 in Bremen:
Regards Peter |
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Another example from week 32. Have fun.
Regards Peter |
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Andrew,
Long promised photos sent via e-mail. Please let me know all reached you. Steve |
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Hi Peter,
Many thanks for the two BMW documents - they'll be very useful. And Steve, thank you for the data plates. They'll go up on my FW 190/Ta 152 website soon. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com |
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The W.Nr. 0110 086 had the call sign GE + QU and not GD + FI (isn't correct in all cases to add the row of signs with the missing letters of alphabet, often there were gaps).
source: FB Niggemeyer Best wishes Rasmussen |
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Hi Rasmussen,
Thank you for this additional piece of information. Thanks also to Don Pearson for his assistance: it’s appreciated. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications – www.airwarpublications.com |
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Hi, all
Peter - are those documents from BMW archives? Regards, Andreas B |
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For WNr. 0045 & 0065 I have the following (the last isn't a loss, but a FB entry):
Fw 190A-1, 10045, Wolf, Uffz. Martin, , , , JGr.West, , , , , 07-Jan-43, Killed in crash., , Lfl.3/FR, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #8)-Vol.13, , südlich Bordeaux, 100%, H, , , Fw 190A-1, 10045, n.n., , III., III., JG 26, , , , , 24-Apr-42, Bruchlandung due to technical failure., WNr. 045 per loss., Lfl.3/Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, VII, p.400, , Fl.Pl. Wevelghem, 40%, F, , , Fw 190A-1, 10065, Pistor, Uffz. Georg, , III., 8., JG 26, , , , , 05-Dec-41, Sperrflug., , Lfl.3/Kanal, FB, , Fl.Pl. Coquelles, -, F, , , And the loss that Andreas referred to I have transcribed as: Fw 190A-5, 0029, ./., , I., I., SG 101, , , , , 30-Apr-44, Bombenwurf., , Lfl.Reich/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.35, , Fl.Pl. Clermont-Ferrand, 100%, H, , , As anyone who has worked with the Schulen losses (Gen.Qu. stuff too) should know, sub types, as listed, are often wrong, not to mention that leading digits of WNr. are oft times truncated. This happens big time with Ju 88s in particular!! Since the A-5 WNr. 410029 was reported as a 70% loss with JG 51 in Oct-43, Andreas is more than likely correct with his listing. |
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Hi Jim,
Thanks very much for the information about those two aircraft - that's some more gaps filled in the listing. Cheers, Andrew A. Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com |
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What exactly is a 'Sperrflug'?
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The W.Nr. 0110 086 had the call sign GE + QU and not GD + FI (isn't correct in all cases to add the row of signs with the missing letters of alphabet, often there were gaps).
Beauvais also gave it as GE+QU, probably the whole GD+Fx is wrong Rémi |
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Hi All,
here some clarification on the Stammkennzeichen and aircraft: GD+FB is a He 111 GD+FC is a Ju 87 GD+FD is a He 111 GD+FE is a W 34 GD+FF is a Do 17 GD+FG is a Fw 44 GD+FH is a He 111 GD+FI is a He 111 GD+FN is correct Fw 190 A-1 110091 GD+FO is correct Fw 190 A-1 110093 the rest are correct ending in: GD+FY as Fw 190 A-1 110102 GD+FZ is unknown to me. Regards, Norbert |
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Thanks, Andrew, for these useful lists. I can add more to the "Sperrflug" discussion. The best definition is "defensive patrol"; the root is from "barrier". JG 26 Flugbücher have many examples in 1941-42 of Sperrflüge over airfields and along railroad lines. They rarely resulted in interceptions, and would normally count as "operational non-combat" flights.
Horrido! Don |
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The word in english, a bit more present, is Interdition
Rémi |
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Remi,
The correct spelling in English is "Interdiction". From the noun Interdict, a term used in Roman, civil and Church law, to mean a law or order to prohibit an action. One could interpret this to mean "to place a barrier between two groups", and thus the translation from German. Enjoy! Frank. |
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Sorry Frank,
My eyes gave full confidence to my fingers, seems they overestimated them Rémi |
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