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rickback4444 12th February 2011 19:58

Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Hi,

Can anyone provide information over the loss of Gefr. Hans Novak lost on 22nd February 1943?

Thanks

Rick


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lilsis 16th February 2011 17:55

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Hi,

Born in Laufen, Bayern ; correct firstname is Johann deathpace in Tunesien.

LG Sis

Laurent Rizzotti 17th February 2011 11:30

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Luftwaffe losses listed in the book "Fighters over Tunisia".

II/StG 3: 1 Ju 87 (pilot POW)
III/StG 3: 1 Ju 87 (pilot POW)

I/KG 26: 1 He 111
II/KG 30: 3 Ju 88
II/KG 76: 1 Ju 88 (Gruppenkommandeur, Maj Richard Meyer, killed)

2.(F)/122: 1 Ju 88 and 1 Me 210 (only the first listed on http://luftwaffedata.co.uk/wiki/inde...._122_Feb_1943)

rickback4444 19th February 2011 23:58

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
CAn anyone find if he was in any of these lost aircraft?

Khorat 20th February 2011 06:36

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
for 1943 I found 8 persons named Nowak - but none named Hans and none of them lost or wounded in Africa, so for 1943 the GQM files are realy complete, I think he wasn´t a member of the "Fliegendes Personal" -.

khorat

rickback4444 20th February 2011 09:32

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Hi,

Please see second post about first name

Thanks

Rick

Khorat 20th February 2011 10:25

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
sorry, no Nowak, Johann, no any Nowak in Africa in 1943

khorat

Brian Bines 20th February 2011 11:20

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
I believe the card translates as ''?G Pilot - holder of the EKII who on 22-2-1943 one day after his 19th.birthday in far off Africa his life gave for his beloved homeland''. Could any body confirm this and what the ?G is, like Khorat I could not find him in the QM's list. I looked in the Jan to April period. Could he have died on the 22nd. Feb following a much earlier wounding, or been washed ashore and buried on 22-2-1943 following an earlier shot down in 1942.

Stijn David 20th February 2011 12:50

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Hello,


This soldier was a trained glider pilot, the notation"LS-Pilot" does stand for "Lastensegler-Pilot" or translated glider pilot.

He did belong towards the Lw. feldregt. Barenthin and he was KIA on that very day. It is known that certain company's from that regiment did do an assault on a englisch positions.


Cordial greetings,

rickback4444 20th February 2011 15:07

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Hi,

Can you tell me more about that regiment. Was he in a feld division of parachute regiment?

Rick

Stijn David 22nd February 2011 20:09

Re: Information Sought on Loss of Gefr. Hans Novak - 22.02.1943 in Africa
 
Hello,


The info on the Lw. feld.Regt. Barenthin is rather scarce. It was a quickly formed Luftwaffe ground unit to help in the fighting on Tunesian Soil. Amongst the soldiers from this unit the so called "Erg.Gr. (S) 2" was drafted and sent towards Tunesia. That former glider training school formed 2 Batallions, a third was composed from elements of pure FJ.

The fighting lasted from november 1942 untill mai 1943 and then the Axis powers where defeated. A lot of the drafted soldiers from the former glider school (as your person) where in the meanwhil either:

* KIA
* WIA
* MIA
* Captured

Not many soldiers did effectively return (exac numbers are not known), i do estimate that from the approx. 750 soldiers who did belong towards the Egr. Gr. (S) 2 starting november 1942 only approx. 150 towards 200 made it back towards Germany (either wounded or due to some other lucky coincidence). This is a very unknown unit and i am working on a book about it.

Therefore this KIA card did offcoarse attract my interest :).

Cordial greetings


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