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Mikkel Plannthin 13th September 2005 23:35

BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
I am looking for information on specific BOAC-flights frem Stockholm to Scotland in fall 1942.

The following catalogue references at the National Archives include information on "British Overseas Airways Corporation and Transport Command"
AIR 20/2993 Dec. 1941 - Oct. 1943
AIR 20/2994 Dec. 1943 - May 1944
AIR 20/2995 May 1944 - Oct. 1945
AIR 20/4629 Sep 1943 - Oct. 1944
AIR 20/4630 Oct. 1944 - July 1945

Does anyone have knowledge about the character of the above references? Basically, I would like to know whether these references includes a list of 'passengers' that would make it possible to connect a person to a specific flight from Stockholm. Logic would suggest, that some of these transfers was secret, and thus not recorded, but logic does not always rule.

Thanks in advance,
Mikkel

Lennart Andersson 14th September 2005 19:13

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
I know nothing about the PRO/NA records indicated. However, the Stockholm-Bromma airport log still exists. I does show the number of passengers and the name of the pilot or aircraft commander, if I rememeber correctly (plus aircraft identity, take off and landing times, etc), but no passenger names.

Lennart Andersson

Mikkel Plannthin 14th September 2005 20:16

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Thanks, Lennart. That could provide som interesting information. Where would the airport log be located?

regards, Mikkel

SES 29th November 2005 10:46

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Hi Guys,
I know this is basic stuff in relation to your question Mikkel, but I still think it serves as good background info.
http://www.gyges.dk/Courier%20flight...%20sweeden.htm
bregds
SES

Mikkel Plannthin 29th November 2005 12:19

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
SES,
Thanks for posting this information. www.gyges.dk is a growing site indeed in terms of information as well as the scope of topics.

Mikkel

Soren Flensted 29th November 2005 16:17

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Mikkel
You could try the BOAC archive which is now part of the British Airways archive. The people there is pretty helpfull.
I will have a look in my files for the address.

Soren Flensted 29th November 2005 16:23

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
The address is:
British Airways Archive and Museum Collection, Building 387 E121, PO Box 10 Heathrow Airport ,Hounslow, Middlesex TW6 2JA, England.
Fax oo44 (0)2085621039

Lennart Andersson 29th November 2005 17:41

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
The Bromma airport log books are kept by Stockholms Stadsarkiv:
http://www.ssa.stockholm.se/

Lennart

Mikkel Plannthin 29th November 2005 23:31

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Thanks, Søren and Lennart, Mikkel

vingtor 1st December 2005 08:24

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
I am doing research for a book on Norwegian Lodestars. Thus I have some information on the aircraft that flew the Scotland-Sweden run. But unforutnately no passenger listing.

I might however have other information that interests you, and vice versa? So perhaps we could exchange information ?

Nils Mathisrud

Mikkel Plannthin 1st December 2005 23:36

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Nils,
I have seen the project mentioned on http://www.ahs.no/. I have to admit though, that I have no information to share at this point. If I cone across further information, I'll let you know.

My interest is due to the fact that a Danish pilot that I am reseaching arrived in Scotland this way to join RAF in the fall of 1942. At this point, I suppose, the a/c must have been a Lodestar.

Mikkel

vingtor 2nd December 2005 12:35

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
BOAC also operated Hudsons on the route untill the summer of 1942. It could perhaps been one of these as well ?

Nils

Vraa84 2nd December 2005 12:38

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Hi

What about a ABA DC-3, is that impossible.

Nick

vingtor 2nd December 2005 12:42

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
I think ABA strictly flew Swedish passengers. But it is of course a possibility.

But when did ABA start regular traffic to Scotland? Around 1942? I have this information in my books at home.

Nils

Vraa84 2nd December 2005 12:49

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Hi

Acording to gyges.dk, 16 feb 1942.

Cheers
Nick

vingtor 2nd December 2005 13:48

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
That flight in February 1942 was a test flight only, without passengers. ABA had some unresoved issues with the British, so there was still some time before "scheduled" traffic started. Some months, I think, but I have the dates in my references at home.

Nils

SES 2nd December 2005 14:05

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
Hi,
This is what I based my entry on:

1942, 16 februari: Svenska kurirflygningar Bromma -Skottland påbörjas med en orangemålad Douglas DC-3 "Gripen", SE-BAG, med Marshall Lindholm och Sven Gibson som förare. Först gick flygningarna direkt men senare tidvis över mellersta Norge.

Please see:
http://www.sff.n.se/kronologi/1940-1949.PDF
which is also a link on my page.
bregds
SES

vingtor 2nd December 2005 15:36

Re: BOAC operations - Bromma/Stockholm-Scotland
 
I will check up the book "Kurirflyg" when I get home tonight.

But since SE-BAG was shot down, 20 June 42, they must have started before that date.

Nils


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