Three pilots and their planes
 

Hi everybody,

I'm looking for information about three 8./JG 1 pilots: Fw. Egon Reichstein, Ofw. Alois Job and Oblt. Heinrich Overhagen. When did they fly with 8./JG 1 and what were their planes (and black numbers on the Messerschmitts)?

Thank you for helping me out!

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

No one? :) I watched in the Kracker Archive, but wasn't able to find anything about their planes during their period at 8./JG 1.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

I keep seeing you guys reference the Kracker Archive - gotta link?

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Here's one

http://aircrewremembrancesociety.com...anPilotsB.html

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

The Tom Kracker Archive is about Luftwaffe aircrew only and so is useful for finding data about officers and non-officers:

http://aircrewremembrancesociety.com...erArchive.html

It has about 14,000 fellows listed. Use, cntrl - F to open the search window once you have clicked on the first letter of the last name of the fellow you are trying to find something about.

Good Hunting!

DGS

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Fw. Egon Reichstein and Uffz. Alois Job were flying together on 12 January 1943 when they intercepted off Norway the Spitfire R7041 of 1 PRU, that was shot down by Job as his first victory.

There is a picture of his aircraft, a Fw 190 A-4 "6 black" on page 125 of the book
"JG 1. L'histoire de la Jagdgeschwader 1 'Oesau'", by Eric Mombeek. ISBN 2-9509485-2-9. Sorry I have no scan.

In April 1943 III./JG 1 was renamed I./JG 11 and Job probabled remained with this unit under his new name. He scored his second victory on 18 Nov 43 with 10./JG 11 and was still with the same Staffel on 1 January 1945 when he scored his victories number 5 to 7.

I found no trace of Reichstein in JG 1 loss list and in German victories list.

Oblt. Heinrich Overhagen of 8;/JG 1 claimed one victory on 29 Nov 43 and two more on 11 Jan 44. He was killed on 12 Mar 44 when his Bf 109 G-6 WNr 760016 crashed near Fels am Wagram during a test flight. He had became Staffelkapitan of 8./JG 1 on 3 Nov 43 when Hptm Alfred Faber was shot down and killed in the North Sea. The book "JG 1" cited above said he was an Oblt having gained most of his experience in JG 1. He appears on page 196 on a picture of the aircraft of Oblt Herwig Zuzic (KIA on 19 Aug 43), with this pilote. By the way Overhagen was still Staka of 8./JG 1 when he died.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Heres a picture of Overhagen. For your interest...

Martin

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/291/img0002kopie.jpg

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Hello,

Thanks for the picture Martin.
1/ Which one is Overhagen
2/ Is this the picture Laurent is talking about or another one?
Note that 760016 is Györ production for what I know. a G-6y (on the picture you did provide)?

Tschüss, Franck.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Thanks for the replies, guys!

Yes, the Kracker archive is a great source. I have discovered many interesting things in it for my research. :D

If I understand correct: Egon Reichstein and Alois Job left 8./JG 1 in the spring to fly in JG 11. In this time, Heinz Overhagen already flew with 8./JG 1 and stayed there till his final crash on 12 March 1944. Is there anything known about the aircraft he flew in during the summer of 1943? This period is the main focus in my research, hence the earlier topic about Miksch.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

zuzic is standing on the plane and Overhagen is leaning on the wing.

martin

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Oudjat, the picture by martin is the same as in the "JG 1" book I have. As he said Overhagen is the one leaning on the wing.

Vinnie, you made some more assumptions that what I did.

Reichstein and Job were members of 8./JG 1 on 12 January 1943

Job later scored victories with 10./JG 11, between Novembre 1943 and January 1945. It seems logical he became a member of I./JG 11 when III./JG 1 was renamed.

As I said no trace of Reichstein, so no idea if he did the same.

I know that Overhagen was a member of 8./JG 1 before 19 August 1943 (date of Zuzic's death) and was Stka of the unit from 3 Nov 43 until his death. I have no idea if he was a member of the old 8./JG 1 before his renaming in 2./JG 11. In April 1943 the whole structure of III./JG 1 became the I./JG 11 and a new III./JG 1 was built from scratch. It is very probable that Overhagen was not a member of III./JG 1 before April 1943, and that he ever was in the same unit as Job and Reichstein, unless you have a trace of it.

For me these three men were part of two different units carrying the same name in different periods.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Sorry, you are right. I drew my conclusions a little bit too quick!
It's very hard to find all relevant information on the web. I found their names and thought that they were in the same staffel in the first months of the year, but could not find anything about them in the summer period. The only thing I could discover was the picture of Overhagen and Zuzic together, taken in the summer of 1943. Job and Reichstein are even more difficult to research, since nothing is known about them during the spring till winter period of 1943.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Hence it's Zuzic plane...

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

By the way I found in one loss list I have that Fw. Egon Reichstein of 2./JG 11 was killed when his Fw 190 was shot down in an air battle against USAAF near Gotha on 24 February 1944. No WNr known.

Re: Three pilots and their planes
 

Hi Doug - just an update on the Kracker archive - it now has 23,000 aircrew listed!
Tom is entering new data almost every day.
http://aircrewremembrancesociety.com...erArchive.html
Kelvin