various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Hi

I have tried everything to identify some officers(from Micro Films) from ZG1 & ZG26, even spent hours scrutinizing there losses for a suitible name, but have concluded that they never came to grief. however it occured to me that as they are either Oberleutnant's or Hauptmann's, that they may very well have been Staffelkapitan's, so could anybody please tell me who was Staffelkapitan of 4./ZG 1 in March 1942, 6./ZG1 August 1942, 1,.ZG26 May 1944, and 10./ZG26 September 1944, seems that 10./ZG26 remained in service a tad longer than the other Staffels before it was dis-banded.

Grateful for any assistance.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

4./ZG 1 in March 1942,
Hptm. Poka v.Pokafalve, 04.01.42 - 07.03.42
Hptm. Dolling, Günther .03.42 - 25.12.42

6./ZG1 August 1942,
Oblt. Albrecht, Egon 12.06.42 - 02.08.43

1,.ZG26 May 1944,
Oblt. Duester OR Duenker 02.1944 - 06.1944

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

1./ZG26:

Oblt. unbekannt Dünker, (Stellv. Staffelführer)

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Hptm. Walter Poka von Pokafalva was Staka of 4./ZG1 and also acting-Gruppenkommandeur at the time of his death on 7th March 1943.
(Source: NVM)

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Thanks lads, but it doesn't help!

It should have helped, with 4./ZG1 I am unlucky with the Kommandeur/Staffelkapitan status, so my Oberleutnant didn't get a look in.

With 6./ZG1, I have a Hauptmann claiming, but an Oberelutnant as Staffelkapitan!

With 1./ZG26 I read the appalling hand writing on the Micro Film as "Sautke", but I guess if I give it another looking it just could be Dunker!

Thanks ago though.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

John Vasco
Are you sure that the year is 1943 or should it read 1942 ?
Frans A

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Typo. Should be 1942. Thanks, and apologies for getting it wrong there.

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This is what I have for 1./ZG 26 1943-1944;

11.10.1943-23.02.1944 Oblt. Peter Jenne
~28.02.1944 Oblt. Matthias Düster(?) (stellv. Staffelführer)
<26.03.1944->25.04.1944 Oblt. Manfred Theves (Staffelführer)
~26.05.1944-14.10.1944 Hptm. Richard Riedl (Staffelführer)

The name Oblt. Matthias Düster is my assumption, I still could not 100% identify him.

John

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

This post still leaves us very much in the dark. Why don't you post the information you have, or you believe is correct, and see if members can sort it out for you?

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

What do You mean?

19.08.42 Hptm. Gehring 6./ZG 1 R-5  75 232: at 300 m. 06.15 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 57

Hptm. Oskar Gehring was StaKa 2./ZG1, not 6./ZG1! He came from 5./ZG2 and after was injured during Citadel with 2./ZG1, went to new formed ZG76.

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Hi guys

Good idee details are:-

10./ZG26 Hptm "Repple" or Reffle" B-24 on 28th September 1944 1245 hrs only 5 metres altitude!
1./ZG26 Oblt "Sautke" or "Santke" 28th May 1944 Burg/Tangerhutte 1420 hrs 7000 metres v.n.e-a.s.m
6./ZG1 Hptm "..ch.ing" R-5 on 19th August 1942 0615 hrs 300 metres
4./ZG1 Oblt "Ziel" R-5 3km north of Ssawinki 1245 hrs 20-30 metres.
on 3rd March 1942
But, I also have a few who's rank is too low to be Staffelkapitan's:-

5./ZG1 Gefr "Abschat"(bordfunker?) Wellington on 19th August 1942 1022 hrs 100 metres.
5./ZG1 Uffz "Hecket" Spitfire on 27th September 1943 1703 hrs 5000 metres v.n.e-a.s.m
4./ZG1 Uffz "Klem" P-38 on 1st May 1943 south-east of Komoron 0953 hrs 7000 metres(this one was once quoted to me as "Klebert", but i'm pretty sur it's not)
4./ZG1 Uffz "M......" or "W......" B-17 on 24th February 1944 1327 hrs 6500 metres.
5./ZG1 Uffz "Maia" B-24 on 29th May 1944 south-west of Vienna 1012 hrs 6500 metres.
3./ZG1 Uffz "Motsch" Il-2 on 21st November 1942 0730 hrs 200 metres.
II./ZG1 Uffz "Rinken" B-24 on 22nd February 1944 Pilsen area 1340 hrs 5000 metres.
5./ZG1 Lt "Saneler" Severskiy on 23rd January 1942 east of Kossorka 1220 hrs tiefflug.
1./ZG1 Fw "Schinne" LaGG-3 on 17th April 1943 0518 hrs 2200 metres v.n.e-a.s.m.
2./ZG1 Lt "Schubel" B-24 on 8th September 1943 1746 hrs 800 metres.
3./ZG1 Fw "Weis...." B-17 on 2nd April 1944 1135 hrs 6000 metres.
1./ZG26 Ofhr "Bauge" or "Bange" B-24 on 29th May 1944 sea, Pommersche Bight 1255 hrs 6000 metres.
6./ZG26 Gefr "Mrolde"(bordfunker?)B-17 on 11th April 1944 east-north-east of Rugen Island 155 hrs 5000 metres.
4./ZG26 Fw "Hiemann" B-17 on 11th April 1944 50km nord-west of Kolberg 1200 hours 4500-5000 metres.
6./ZG26 Uffz "Holzweg" P-51 on 20th June 1944 Demmin area 0935 hrs 6000-7000 metres A.S.M
11./ZG26 Ofw "Wisstruth" or "Misstruth" Beaufighter on 16th November 1943 1240 hrs 200 metres.
11./ZG26 Ofw "Rechel" Beaufighter on 16th November 1943 1245 hrs 5 metres.
4./ZG26 Ofw "Schroeder" P-51 on 20th June 1944 south of Magdeburg 0925 hrs 6000 metres v.n.e-a.s.m.

Obviously officers should not be bordfunkers, but a fighter claimed is quite often a bordfunker, but a bomber claimed almost always a pilot!

On the micro films I found 555 claims for ZG26 and 380 for ZG1, apart from those listed above all others identified, or from a micro film(usually January 1944) where only time and date mentioned.

Grateful for your assistance.

Kind Regards

Johannes
1./ZG26 Ofhr "Schinbauer" B-24 on 20th June 1944 east of Rugen Island 0920 hrs 6200 metres.

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Hi Evgeny

Have checked the micro film, and yes though faint in places it really does look like Hptm Gehring, though it is 6./ZG1 confirmed by the Staffel claim number.......the micro films do hold mistakes!!!

Many thanks for that.

If you send me your e.amil address I'll forward on my ZG units data, for your scrutiny.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Evgeny and Johannes
Gehring was assigned to II. Gruppe ZG 1 between 7.7.1942 until 21.8.1942....so he possibly was at 6th Staffel.
check six

Peter

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Johannes

The claim by Hptm Repple 10/ZG26 on 28 September 1944, I have as the 2nd claim for Hptm Herbert Treppe.

Hptm Treppe was the Staffelkapitan of 13(Z)/JG 5 when it became 10./ZG26 in July 1944. However, I also have him as the GruppenKammander of IV/ZG 26 when it was formed at that time (July 1944). From information on IV/ZG26 (see below) it seems that it was never fully formed, so maybe he only led 10/ZG26 into combat. Anyway as can be seen IV/ZG26 became the new II/JG5 in February 1945 in which Treppe was the Gruppenkammandeur.

11./ZG26: Formed 6.43 in Eleusis. On 18.7.44 became part of the new IV./ZG26.
IV. Gruppe: Gruppenkommandeure:
·?
Formed 18.7.44 in Oerlandet (10. and 12./ZG26 only): Disbanded 23.2.45:
Stab IV./ZG26 formed 5.9.44 in Oerlandet from Stab/SAGr.125 (Bf 110G) Stab IV./ZG26 became Stab II./JG5
10./ZG26 in Herdla from 13(Z)./JG5 (Bf 110G) 10./ZG26 became 7./JG5
11./ZG26 existed already, but did not arrive in Oerlandet until 8.44 (Ju 88C) see below
12./ZG26 in Gossen from Küstenfliegerstaffel Krim (Bf 110G) 12./ZG26 was disbanded


Only 11./ZG26 remained until the end (based at Oerlandet, 2.45 - 5.45, with Me 410A).

Regards,

Craig...

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Another interpretation of claimants' names :
http://www.cieldegloire.com/zg_026.php
http://www.cieldegloire.com/zg_001.php

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Hi Graig

Thanks for that.
Just viewed micro film again, name looks like Keppe actually, so I would not normally think it was Treppe, but your argument is convincing, and truelly the first letter/letters of the name are not un-readable because they are faint, it's because I think the T and r have become merged!....so Treppe it is!

Thanks again

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: various Staffelkapitan's of ZG1 & ZG26
 

Johannes,

Oblt. Helmut Jantke on 28.05.1944? He was with 1./ZG 26 at that time.

John