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Leo Etgen 5th May 2011 03:10

Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Hello

Leutnant Alfred Hammer (26 victories), Staffelkapitän of 6./JG 53, was wounded in aerial combat on 24 February 1944 and 13 June 1944. Would anyone have any loss list information regarding these occasions? Many thanks.

Horrido!

Leo

Matti Salonen 5th May 2011 08:37

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
1944-02-24, 6./JG 53, Bf 109G-6, 440190, 1 gelbe, Linz, Kabinentreffer bei Luftkampf mit B-17. Bruch ? %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Hammer, Alfred, verletzt

Matti

RT 5th May 2011 12:56

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
12 6 44 6 JG53 Gaël sud, BF109G-6 Hammer alfred if wounded or not I dont know..

Probably clashed with B24/P51

Rémi

Rasmussen 5th May 2011 16:43

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 127221)
12 6 44 6 JG53 Gaël sud, BF109G-6 Hammer alfred if wounded or not I dont know..

Probably clashed with B24/P51

Hello remi,

where the information came from? In his flightbook and his Leistungsbuch isn't mention any flight, accident or dogfight between 24.02.1944 - 22.07.1944.

Best regards
Rasmussen

Rasmussen 5th May 2011 16:48

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 127210)
1944-02-24, 6./JG 53, Bf 109G-6, 440190, 1 gelbe, Linz, Kabinentreffer bei Luftkampf mit B-17. Bruch ? %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Hammer, Alfred, verletzt

Matti

Regarding his Leistungsbuches it was an fight with 70 - 80 B-17 (and "Lightnings"). He was wounded on his left leg during and did an belly landing on airfield Hörsching near Linz.

Best regards
Rasmussen

RT 5th May 2011 18:45

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
At 13h00

Unfort. no source for the 12.June, but considering his log-book, you are pretty right , no flights recorded from 24.Febr. till 22.July 44, seems we hv to consider the 12.June as a "non-event"

At least Hammer seems to hv very clean victories, nd a gallant man, he gives the Wn of part of his Mounts

Rémi

Flyingkag 5th May 2011 20:41

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Hallo Rasmussen and Remi,

It seems you have some interesting documentation regarding Alfred Hammer and his Staffel!

I personnaly have investigated for some years about some airfights concerning the II/JG53 in late 1944, and especially the ones on november 25th, december 12th and december 16th 1944.

I would be VERY interested and thanksfull for any possible elements given in documents as logbooks or other unpublished documents concerning this unit on that time.

Particulary concerned in my research are Alexander Preinfalk (6/JG53) and Alfred Ostermeyer (7/JG53) , Rudolf Hartter (6/JG53) and Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.

I would be very interested to share about them!

Cheers,

Mathias

Leo Etgen 5th May 2011 21:12

Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Hello guys

Very interesting turn of events in which it now appears that he was not involved in any incident on 13 June 1944 as per www.luftwaffe.cz/hammer.html. Many thanks to Matti for the information regarding the 24 February 1944 incident. I noticed that the Kracker archive states that he was also involved in an incident with Bf 109 F-4 (W.Nr. 7412) while serving with 4./JG 53 sometime in March 1942. Is there any additional information about this incident if indeed it occurred such as date, cause and location? Many thanks to all who have responded.

Horrido!

Leo

Rasmussen 5th May 2011 23:02

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen (Post 127269)
I noticed that the Kracker archive states that he was also involved in an incident with Bf 109 F-4 (W.Nr. 7412) while serving with 4./JG 53 sometime in March 1942. Is there any additional information about this incident if indeed it occurred such as date, cause and location? Many thanks to all who have responded.

The incident itself isn't mentioned in his flightbook. On 28 March (the day of the incident) he arrived after "Freie Jagd über Malta" in Comiso on 2.26 pm. During this sortie he had contact with 4 Hurricanes and AA fire. Then he didn't used the W.Nr.7412 to 31 March ... it was an "Werkstattflug" after an repair. The cause: Rollschaden.

Best regards
Rasmussen

Matti Salonen 6th May 2011 07:52

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
1942-03-28, 4./JG 53, Bf 109F-4, 7412, 5 weiße, Fl.Pl. Comiso, Rollschaden bei Landung. Bruch 10 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Hammer, Alfred

Matti

Leo Etgen 6th May 2011 14:20

Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Hi guys

Many thanks to those who have helped me with my questions regarding this ace, in particular Matti and Rasmussen. I greatly appreciate you fellows taking the time to research the answers and it was a great help indeed. Thanks!

Horrido!

Leo

KrisJG3 19th February 2012 13:06

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingkag (Post 127266)
Hallo Rasmussen and Remi,

It seems you have some interesting documentation regarding Alfred Hammer and his Staffel!

I personnaly have investigated for some years about some airfights concerning the II/JG53 in late 1944, and especially the ones on november 25th, december 12th and december 16th 1944.

I would be VERY interested and thanksfull for any possible elements given in documents as logbooks or other unpublished documents concerning this unit on that time.

Particulary concerned in my research are Alexander Preinfalk (6/JG53) and Alfred Ostermeyer (7/JG53) , Rudolf Hartter (6/JG53) and Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.

I would be very interested to share about them!

Cheers,

Mathias


Dear Mathias ,

Probably member of familly looking for pilot: Karl Schwarz - can You help them ? Also other people - do you have any news ?

See:

"...Hallo,

hat jemand Informationen zum Absturz/Abschuß von Karl Schwarz (Carl Schwartz)?


Er gehörte dem Jagd-Geschwader 53 an und ist am 14. März 1945 nach einem Luftkampf bei Worfelden abgestürzt. ..."


Source: http://www.vksvg.de/thread.php?postid=77908#post77908

Best regards

KrisJG3

PS:

This is probably another Karl Schwarz:


"...
1./JG53 losses over Rijeka,Croatia on 18.3.1944
oi!

On 18.3.1944 in battle over Rijeka 1./JG53 loss 4 Bf-109G-6:
- 162400; white 4; Uffz.Joseph Suss; KIA
- 162215; white 6; Uffz. Arno Schicke, MIA
- 162278; white 16; Fw. Karl Schwarz; MIA
- 162267; white 18; Uffz. Hans Buschmuller; MIA

With friends I have found 3 crash sites. Does anyone have maybe some photos of this pilots or planes or anything other.

thanks
Raus

Parts from two crash sites: ..."

Source: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=20440

Doug Stankey 19th February 2012 16:25

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
From our files, we have:

HAMMER, Alfred (“Martello”). (DOB: 03.07.21). 11.41 in Erg.Gr./JG 53, assigned to 4./JG 53. 02.43 appt Adjutant in II./JG 53. 05.43 in 6./JG53. 28.07.43 Lt., in Stab II./JG 53, appt Staka 6./JG 53 (to 08.01.45). 01.02.44 promo to Oblt. 24.02.44 Oblt. and Staka 6./JG 53, WIA - by B-17 return fire, landed at Linz. 01.11.44 promo to Hptm. 09.01.45 appt Kdr. IV./JG 53 (to 30.04.45). Credited with 26 victories in approx. 500 missions.

From Tom Kracker's datatrove:

Hammer, Alfred "Martello" - Hptm. 26 victories - 4./JG-53 (11/41), 6./JG-53 (5/43 Sicily), Stfkpt 6./JG-53 (7/43; 1/44 Reich Def), Kdr. IV./JG-53 (1/45 to end)Bf 109 F-4 Wk# 7412 (10% 3/42) & 7553 (dam 5/42),in 4 Stf, Bf 109 G-2/Trop Werk # 10488 "White 5 + -" in 4/JG-53, Bf 109G-6/Trop "<2 + -" (Comiso Sicily), Bf 109G-6/R6 440190 "Yel 1 + -" (WIA 1/24/44, cabin hit by B-17 return fire at Linz, aircraft OK to return to base) DK-G, EP, EK 1 & 2, Wound Badge, Fighter Operational Clasp271 escort missions around Malta before his first victory, 500+ total. Crashed his F-4 at Comiso Sicily on 14 May, 1942, after aerial combat with a Spitfire. Downed by Aust, Ace, John "Tony" Boyd (KIA same day, 5/14/42) of RAF No 185 Sq.. One known victory, his first, a Spitfire over Malta on 25 October, 1942. His 2nd, a P-38 20 km south of La Galite on 4 March, 1943. His 3rd, in Sicily, a P-38F 8 km south of Pantellaria on 9 June, 1943 in II/JG-53. His 4th, a B-26 on 4 July, 1943. His 5th, a P-40 on 9 July, 1943. After his 6th victory, his eng failed and he belliy landed G-6 #18398 "Wh 14" at Gerbini on 10 July, 1943. His 10th, a P-38 10 km S of Cilli on 7 January, 1944. A Piper L-4 at Dollot, W of Sens, on 23 August, 1944. A P-47 at La Petit Pierre/Voges on 28 September, 1944. His 15th, a P-51 at Verelise/Nancy on 2 October, 1944. His 18th, a P-51 at Rastatt, SW of Karlsrühe on 1 December, 1944. His 19th, a B-26 in the Ardennes sector on 24 December, 1944. His 26th, an Auster 4/14/45. During the evacuation of Tunis bridgehead in May 1943, he flew out 4 Ground Crew members, one by one. Survived.
We hope that this helps.

HLdZ
DGS

Jim P. 20th February 2012 22:37

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
According to the original JG 53 history from Mr. Prien, the Stfhr. Hauffe of 6./JG 53 was WIA on 13-Jun-44. Is this the loss you're looking for?

Bf 109G-6, 440528, Hauffe, Oblt. Wolfgang, 1, II., 6., JG 53, gelbe, 2 + -, , , 13-Jun-44, Stfhr. WIA due to Luftkampf with B-24s over Fl.Pl. Vannes. FSA., , FR, Prien, JG 53 (1998), III, p.948; Prien, JG 53, III, p.1372, , Gail, 100%, F, , ,

KrisJG3 24th February 2012 22:04

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingkag (Post 127266)
... Karl Schwarz (5/JG53), but in general the complete 5th, 6th and 7th Staffeln on these 3 days.

I would be very interested to share about them!

Cheers,

Mathias

- KARL SCHWARZ crashes in a forest near (xxx) around four o clock on 14 March 1945. - for 100% confirmed. Sorry but I can not inform about more details witout permission other person.

NickM 25th February 2012 02:50

Re: Hauptmann Alfred Hammer
 
Here is a linky to Kacha's Luftwaffe Aces page:

http://www.luftwaffe.cz/hammer.html


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