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Richard T. Eger 7th May 2011 19:46

Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Dear All,

I was scouting around some old PM's and noticed some pertaining to sudek13. As I recall, at one time, he was opening up his collection to others, but then that idea seemed to have been rather short-lived, somewhat akin to the attempt by Keele to make their aerial photos available on-line.

So, out of curiosity, I was wondering what had become of his collection.

Regards,
Richard

Rasmussen 8th May 2011 00:16

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
IIRC it is now the "Archive of Modern Conflicts".

Regards
Rasmussen

Richard T. Eger 9th May 2011 03:18

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
I Googled "Archive of Modern Conflicts", but, from what is described, I don't think that it is connected with sudek13. With all the fuss about this guy a few years back and his amassing a huge collection of Luftwaffe photos by outbidding everyone else on eBay, I am quite surprised that no one else has jumped in with an update on whatever happened to him and the collection. Come on guys, someone here knows.

Okay, I tried directly Googling both the supposed archive with sudek13, but the references were no newer than 2008. Again, it looks like this thing has gone into hiding.

Regards,
Richard

VtwinVince 9th May 2011 03:44

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Richard, this guy has been active only the other day on ebay. He purchased a couple of rare Wehrmacht photos, of course for astronomical amounts of money.

Richard T. Eger 9th May 2011 06:08

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
eBay doesn't list winners anymore, as far as I know. How do you know it was him?

Regards,
Richard

Rasmussen 9th May 2011 08:30

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
I'd believe sudek13 wasn't an guy, but an "organisation" with base in Canada. I itself sold two pictures to "sudek13" and I had to do with two different persons, a man and a woman, living in different towns (IIRC).

Best regards
Rasmussen

Peter Kassak 9th May 2011 08:39

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Hi guys.

It has been discussed in here and on other forums as well.
Sudek 13 was really not a person, it was an organization of various bidders, that collected photos from eBay for some unknown private collection. Private menas not public that time, but it was assumed it was some museum, or archive or so.
Archive of Modern Conflicts IS name for PART (at least) of that collection. I have seen photo with this credit published but previously bidded on eBay. If the googl search does not give any hints ot Archive of Modern Conflicts, it means it is not opened fully for public. BUt as it appeared in publications, some publishers may have access to it.
I also would like to make connection regarding very few shots, but was not lucky yet...

Khorat 9th May 2011 16:41

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
hm just know one which had access to this collection and ya its not opend for public, b´cause there is no catalogisation yet. Maybe sometime in the future.

khorat

Richard T. Eger 9th May 2011 18:34

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
I'm not quite buying the story that sudek13 was not a single individual. Whoever it is/was seems to have access to unlimited funds, which is generally not the case with aviation history authors who shouldn't give up their day jobs to feed their families. Yes, sudek13 did obtain the cooperation of a number of researchers that formed an inner circle. And, perhaps, one or more of these has acted to communicate for him. But, I don't think that this all started out as a cabal. It needed one rather rich person to spearhead it in the first place.

Regardless, there was a promise at one time to share the collection with the aviation history community. But, since then, nothing. That's why I wrote my inquiry in the first place.

Regards,
Richard

CJE 9th May 2011 20:52

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
He is (was?) a Canadian millionaire who set up a team to work on his behalf on eBay with the ultimate goal to open up his archives to anyone.
They bought a hell of a lot of photographs when money was easy.
Since 2009 and the recession, things have gone from bad to worse.
The team was disbanded and the collection held up waiting for better days.

bn785371 9th May 2011 21:53

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CJE (Post 127548)
He is (was?) a Canadian millionaire who set up a team to work on his behalf on eBay with the ultimate goal to open up his archives to anyone.
They bought a hell of a lot of photographs when money was easy.
Since 2009 and the recession, things have gone from bad to worse.
The team was disbanded and the collection held up waiting for better days.

You speak in the past tense,I know for sure they are still bying!

Rasmussen 9th May 2011 23:20

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bn785371 (Post 127552)
You speak in the past tense,I know for sure they are still bying!

You are right ... an professional seller told me the same some days before --- but they buy not so excessive.



hucks216 10th May 2011 18:00

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
I believe this is the website...
http://ground.warfarethroughthelens.org/

Rasmussen 10th May 2011 20:48

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hucks216 (Post 127587)
I believe this is the website...
http://ground.warfarethroughthelens.org/

That's the "point" that "sudek13" is in princip the "Archive of Modern conflicts" because the administrator of the website - Stefan DeMeyer from Belgium - was/is one of the members of the "sudek13-team". He published in 2008 (I believe) on wehrmacht-award.com an statement to the objectives of the "sudek13-group".

Best regards
Rasmussen

CJE 11th May 2011 14:09

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bn785371 (Post 127552)
You speak in the past tense,I know for sure they are still bying!

Yes, but not at the same price level.
I got a couple of photographs against them at much more reasonable prices than two years ago.

Richard T. Eger 12th May 2011 06:13

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Dear All,

Thanks for everyone's contribution. We now have an up to date point of contact for the collection.

Regards,
Richard

ChrisDNT 24th October 2012 21:37

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Just curious, where's the site gone?

http://ground.warfarethroughthelens.org/

Login doesn't work!

muggs_ro 24th October 2012 22:20

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Use this link instead : http://www.warfarethroughthelens.org/

JohnnyB 24th October 2012 22:57

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
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Hi all,

Once I created a Log in on this page http://ground.warfarethroughthelens.org/
with Nick/PW, so it was possible to check there all pictures as preview. Now this page is been changed.
There´s only this "plone"-page.
Impossible to log in there with my old Nick/PW :mad:

ChrisDNT 24th October 2012 23:16

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
muggs_ro, thanks a lot :-)

ChrisDNT 4th November 2012 14:49

Re: Whatever happened to sudek13 and his massive collection?
 
Is the site working for you ?


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