Erich Etienne-Nazi Polar Explorer
 

I was wondering if someone can give me some more information on Erich Etienne. About 25-30 years ago, I purchased from a US vet a Honor Goblet that was presented to Mr. Etienne's family after his plane was shot down over Norway while returning from a polar exploration. The inscription in the Goblet reads: Wetterdienstassessor ERICH ETIENNE AM 18 10 42.
TX
John

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Why do you think that Etienne was a nazi ?

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Killed in the crash of a Ju88D-5 1B+CH 1772 of Wekusta 5 on 23-7-1942. he is mentioned in the book Wekusta (ISBN 978 0 0545605 8 4 ) and there are some photos of him,

Regards

Brian Bines

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He was a German Geophysicist, Pilot and Exployer. I never saw his nazi party papers, but I am assuming that since he was a pilot of the luftwaffe and received after his death the 2nd highest decoration just under the Knights Cross, he was definately an important figure in the German movement. BTW..I think he was flying a HE 111 (equipped with skis) when his plane was shot down. From my research, only one other was killed in the crash.

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Tx Brian , I will check the post u sent...rgs..John

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Luft GQM report dated 26-7-1942 has - 23-7-1942 Ff Oblt Heinz Wagner, B Dr.Erich Etienne and Bf Uffz Heinrich Voss all mising changed to killed. The Wekusta book also states Obslt.Vollrath Wibel as killed in crash, a listing ''Deutsche Flieger unter dem Nordlich'' gives Etienne as b 24.02-1915 and that he is buried at Botn-Rognan Block B Grave 1001 (Wagner 1004, Voss 1003 ).

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For sure the He111 didn't hv any Skis , nd at 99.99999 % Etienne was not a Nazi, or that kind of guy you call a nazi ,killing jews to spend his spare-time

Place Barentsburg Moskushamn- SPITZBERG

Weibel vollrath major t LF5 zur Einrichtung neues Polarstation

L H Seilen Kohlentransport viell, b, N Versuch A = Rammed some cable of a Coaltransporter seems to hv crashed by forcelanding attempt


Rémi

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http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/moskushamn.html

regards Kjell

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I stand corrected on one issue..Erich Etienne did not use a HE-111 but a HE-115 S4+BK which does have skis. I can send u a pic if needed.
As far as the Nazi issue..I said I was NOT sure but assumed that he was a member of the Nazi party. Thousands upon thousands of Germens were card holding members. Don't ever assume that just because they were a member of the Nazi party that they had any part with the killing of the Jews. You are totally wrong on that point..sorry!

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Surely you mean a He 115 with floats as opposed to skis?

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I am not opposed to see the picture, I joke, but every picture is good received by every people here

Wonder if someone ever try to ''land'' with floats on the snow .

Remi

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The He 115 B2 was built with reinforced floats with steel ice runners under the floats letting it operate from compacted snow or ice.

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I stand corrected again rg: Floats/Skis.. Gosh this site is nice..ty all for ur information and imput..John

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Back to my topic..I can't understand why he was presented a Honor Goblet after his death if he was not piloting the a plane. As far as I know, they were only presented to Luftwaffe Pilots only for bravery. Unless it was for services rendered as a polar explorer.

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Awarded to Aircrew - http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/serv...blet/first.htm - in the case of Etienne probaly for his duties with the Weather Services and as an Artic Expert for setting up weather Stations.


Another site re He115 http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/0...aplanes-2.html

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For any of u that would enjoy seeing the Honor Goblet that was presented to Dr. Etienne's family after his death.

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...Etienne005.jpg
http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...Etienne012.jpg

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Very interesting goblet, and unusual to see one presented to a meteorologist. I'm still hoping my uncle's goblet will come out of the woodwork one day. Awarded to Hauptmann Dr. Albrecht Ochs in October, 1940.

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Tx Vince and I do hope u find ur uncles goblet. The Internet is such a vast source of information, I am sure if the goblet is out there it will show up someday. I have owned this Goblet for 25+ years and have never cleaned or polished it as many people do. I want to keep it in the exact condition that it was found.

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When the vet brought in the Honor Goblet for me to purchase, he also had a very unusual desk(I think) cigarette case..dimentions were about 3 inches high, 4 inches wide and 6-7 inches long. It was made in silver with a gold luftwaffe emblem. He said he picked both items up in the same destroyed house. I sold the cigarette case like a dummy. I never saw another one like it.

Re: Erich Etienne - Polar Explorer
 

[quote=welles_is;131051]I was wondering if someone can give me some more information on Erich Etienne. About 25-30 years ago, I purchased from a US vet a Honor Goblet that was presented to Mr. Etienne's family after his plane was shot down over Norway while returning from a polar exploration. The inscription in the Goblet reads: Wetterdienstassessor ERICH ETIENNE AM 18 10 42.
TX
John

Re: Erich Etienne- Polar Explorer
 

[quote=welles_is;131051]I was wondering if someone can give me some more information on Erich Etienne. About 25-30 years ago, I purchased from a US vet a Honor Goblet that was presented to Mr. Etienne's family after his plane was shot down over Norway while returning from a polar exploration. The inscription in the Goblet reads: Wetterdienstassessor ERICH ETIENNE AM 18 10 42.
TX
John

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Hi
ya wonder why, i hardly come on here....Nazi'''lol.
So was Hans J maresille..he worked for -Nazi Germany..
I saw his card..Money card..paycheck...
Politics,,always ...
As for the millions of Luftwaffe. Nazi'Card party member carryin crews..
ID say only 2%,, were card party members..All forces..Waffen SS too..were not that way.-Say-.........INCLINED.......
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yours .Sharon..
.only card carryin on me his my blood Kidney doners card...

Re: Erich Etienne-Nazi Polar Explorer
 

John, that's pretty unfortunate about the cigarette case, but the main thing is the goblet. As you know, there were very few awards issued during the III. Reich that were named.

Re: Dr. Erich Etienne- Polar Explorer WW2
 

Hi,
Refering to Dr. Etienne as a Nazi was a mistake. It truely was not ment as an insult to the man, his family or accomplishments.
I tried to edit the post but couldn't. Any ideas how to edit the post would be appreciated.
I wanted to say " Dr. Erich Etienne - Polar Explorer WW2."
Again, my apologies.
Rgs,
John

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There are several references to Dr. Etienne in the following books:

Schwerdtfeger, Werner; Selinger, Franz. Wetterflieger in der Arktis 1940-1944 (Stuttgart: Motorbuch Verlag, 1982) ISBN 3-87943-854-4. - This book is a history of Wekusta 5 (weather recon squadron 5) which operated in the arctic flying up to Spitzbergen.

Vocke, Dr. Ernst. Die Wetterflieger (Zweibrücken: VDM Heinz Nickel Verlag, 2002). ISBN: 3-925480-61-7. - This book is mainly about the civilian weather flyers and has references to Dr. Etienne.

Kington, John A,; Selinger, Franz. Wekusta - Luftwaffe Meteorological Reconnaissance Units & Operations 1938-1945 (Bracknell: Flight Recorder Publications Ltd., 2006). ISBN 0-9545605-8-2. - received 2009? - This book is still in print and is in English. It contains 7 references to Dr. Etienne in the index. He appears in 2 photos.


Coincidently, it may amuse you that 35 years ago I was an weather observer in the arctic for over 2 years. At one point I was stationed at Alert, the most northerly station in the world.

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Where was Alert ?

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Alert,N.W.T, is station CYLT located at latitude 82.5 degrees North on the north shore of Ellesmere Island, some 510 mile from the North Pole. My job was to launch and track weather balloons to over 100,00 feet height twice a day in order to establish temperature and humidity profiles and to measure the upper winds. Secondary tasks were to take air samples and service the neutron and meson counters and maintain the RF1 and RF 4 radiation sensors.

My other posting was for 737 days at CYUX at DEW Line Station Fox Main.

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Those were the good old days, with the DEW line.