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Peglar 24th July 2011 09:09

German Spitfire
 
AZ - H 234. Squd. P/O Hardy 15. Aug 1940 downed near Calais from Lt Schulz 1./JG 53

Greetings peglar

Andy Saunders 24th July 2011 10:31

Re: German Spitfire
 
Not the left hand two, which is a Mk IX or XII or thereabouts. (Someone will put me right!)

I think I have seen a colour shot of this later Spit in German markings somewhere before.

zorglub 24th July 2011 11:21

Re: German Spitfire
 
Rather looks like a Mk XI ( certainly not IX or XII !)

Peglar 24th July 2011 11:31

Re: German Spitfire
 
Serial 3277

Andy Saunders 24th July 2011 12:55

Re: German Spitfire
 
Peglar - the Spitfire on the right is indeed N3277 and is a Spitfire Mk I. It has nothing to with the Spitfire in the other two images.

Chris Goss 24th July 2011 13:11

Re: German Spitfire
 
Peglar: Are you saying the photos came from Ernst-Albrecht Schulz or he 'shot' the Spitfire down?

PeterA 24th July 2011 13:44

Re: German Spitfire
 
PR Mk XI EN685.

PeterA

Peglar 24th July 2011 14:08

Re: German Spitfire
 
Peglar - the Spitfire on the right is indeed N3277 and is a Spitfire Mk I. It has nothing to with the Spitfire in the other two images.

yes. i know this !

Are you saying the photos came from Ernst-Albrecht Schulz or he 'shot' the Spitfire down?

Stands on the backsite of the Foto - Schulz downed them to a belly Landing - not shot down. Fuel must be empty too.


Spit TK e9 we called Fotoaufklärer or Reconnaissance

Peglar 24th July 2011 14:13

Re: German Spitfire
 
some more

Greetings peglar

Andy Saunders 24th July 2011 14:23

Re: German Spitfire
 
Thank you Peglar. I'm afraid your first post didn't make it clear that the Spitfire on right of the the series of images had nothing to do with the others!!

Chris Goss 24th July 2011 16:23

Re: German Spitfire
 
According to Schulz and others from 1/JG 53, the credit went to Rolf Pingel?!

zorglub 24th July 2011 18:47

Re: German Spitfire
 
A glance at the Luftwaffe Experten board would be fruitful , especially allied captured aircraft...especially Spitfires !

blythsco 26th July 2011 17:00

Re: German Spitfire
 
Could be American PRU Spit MK XI MB945 from Mount Farm. On March 1, 1944 this Spit was listed as FTR (failed to return) from a mission to Aschersleben and Brunswick. Pilot was Lt. Franklyn Van Wart, 14th Squadron, 7th Photo Group. He became a POW.

Scott

Graham Boak 26th July 2011 17:49

Re: German Spitfire
 
No, it is a well-known example and the serial is given above.

More generally, it is worth a look here: http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...?showtopic=310

Phil Lloyd 26th July 2011 18:34

Re: German Spitfire
 
Good info here regarding captured Spitfires, including colour shots of the Mk1 AZ-H and later mark Spitfire.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...fe-3473-4.html

http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/sh...=12437&page=13

Alain57 27th July 2011 13:36

Re: German Spitfire
 
Hello Gents ,

For more info on the Spitfire MN-F , check this site :

http://home.pi.be/~braf/350Sqn/aircr...mn-f-BM652.htm

Regards
Alain57

Faenor 1st March 2018 12:53

Re: German Spitfire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterA (Post 131724)
PR Mk XI EN685.

PeterA

Hi,

I´m looking of more info about this Spit - who was the pilot during force-landing to captivity and if there are some photos in RAF marking.

Thanks

Faenor

Kaiyan 2nd March 2018 08:00

Re: German Spitfire
 
this from another website, I cannot say how accurate the info is..

EN685 Spitfire PR.X1 (Merlin 61); No.542 Sqn; FTR Hannover, force-landed 13.5.44; To the Luftwaffe; Repaired, and to "Zirkus Rosarius" (2nd/OKL), marked 'T9+EK'; Flown by Lt KH Messer (First Group of No.53 (F) Wing [I/JG.53]) from Hannover-Wunstorf to Hustedt (NE of Hannover) 31.7.44; Demonstration at Dortmund, Monchengladbach, Bonninghardt, Bonn, Stadte and Husum from 2.8. to 11.8.44; Flown 21.8.44; Demonstrated by pilots of No.26 (F)Wing [JG.26] at Reinsehlen (near Schneverdingen, c.40m E of Bremen) in 11.44; Fate unknown

Faenor 2nd March 2018 10:26

Re: German Spitfire
 
Hi Kaiyan,

I have same info, but I have no info about RAF pilot on the last sortie ......

Thanks Faenor


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