captured german planes in color
 

Follow this link:

http://www.framepool.com/en/bin/2738...all,521635,16/

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Rémi,

i am very impressed and congratulations with thanks for sharing this!

y/f
Norbert

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Fritzlar ?

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Yes, that's Fritzlar :)

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Excellent link and best at all that movies could be download :)

Thank you!

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I do believe this footage was shot by George Stevens.

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Great stuff! Thanks for posting.

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Hi friends,

Among all the footage #838-053-277 (Bf109-G "Gelbe 11") is quite helpful since it gives us an identity to the following picture we've loaded times ago! :).

By the way; a Bf109G-what?

Cheers, Franck.

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Hi Franck,

in one of the "Bf 109 G/K" volumes by Krzystof Janowicz the Werknummer of this plane is given as 20285. This would make it a Bf 109 G-6 produced by WNF during summer 1943. For me the photos are not so telling, however. Visible more clearly are only the last three digits of the Werknummer, which could also be ...785.
In any case, it sure looks like a G-6 (or a G-14 with it's FuG 16 ZY antenna missing), but obviously it has been retrofitted with the later-model wings as they feature the larger wheel bulges.

Regards,
Christian

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Hello Christian,
Thank you for your answer.
I thought I had seen a WNr. somewhere but I didn't took it ... somekind of a confirmation.
Of course wheel size doesn't match with larger bulges ... If the WNr. is correct, it's quite a long life for a 1943 produced G-6.
... But, camouflage - I mean paint job - doesn't seem to be that old; instead it looks (for me) factory fresh!
- When did those wings (with larger bulges) started to be produced?

KR, Franck.

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Prien and Rodeike (in their Bf 109 F,G,K study) give the introduction date of these wings/main wheels as "end of 1944".
BTW: "Yellow 11" could off course also be a G-8 variant! Werknummer range 200... would fit the observations made by Janowicz, too. Did not think of this in my first post..

Regards,
Christian

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Hello everyone,

I have quite a few additional shots of this 109. I have it listed as:

Bf109G-6/R2, WNr. 230785, 11+ Y, from an unknown NAG.

Steve Sheflin

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230785, an old bird of the 3.NAGr.1, on 4.March 45 "flugklar" nd used by 3.NAGr.13, but on 28.March with 3.NAGr.1 had an "Rollschaden" in Fritzlar

Rémi

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Wow Rémi, this looks like a hit :) Thank you very much for this info!

Christian

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Hi Guys,

nothing to say except:
Thanks Steve, Remi & Christian!...
And thank to me, too, since, some times, we have to use "Forceps" to get the right answer !!!! :D.

If I dare, that "Rollschaden" in March 1945 woud explain that wing change... some kind of a confirmation of that plane identity.

Cheers, Franck.

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...... Hum ...
last, One colour profile of that plane has been made by Anders Hjortsberg times ago (in his old profile page)....

Tschuss.