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steve sheridan 27th January 2012 15:11

Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hi can anybody help with two KG53 losses as below with crew names, codes where known etc.

He111 8/KG53 crashed nr Giebelstadt 1.8.40 during a routine flight.
2 killed? Lt Attaker and Lt Seddewig?

He111 II/KG53 forced landing at Lille- Vendeville. 3.8.40
Lt Bohmert and 2 others wounded.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Best regs,
Steve.

Thomas H 27th January 2012 23:05

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hi Steve,

Heinz Kiehl doesn't give losses one these dates for any KG53 unit and I also didn't find the Lt's in the loss list.

Regards, Thomas

steve sheridan 27th January 2012 23:27

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hi Thomas, many thanks for your reply,
Yes i had also checked this publication without success too, i was curious to to know whether anybody may have the relevant NVM's for this unit,
that may help me nail these!

Kindest regs,
Steve.

Larry Hickey 29th January 2012 03:10

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Steve:

According to the EoE Luft Loss DB:

"August 1, 1940: 8./KG53 Heinkel He111H. Crashed near Giebelstadt on local flight, cause unknown. BO Lt [ ] Altvater and FF Lt [ ] Sadewig both killed (neither found VDK), rest of crew unhurt. Aircraft 100% write-off."

August 3, 1940: II./KG53 Heinkel He111H-2. Damaged in forced-landing at Lille-Vendeville airfield due to engine failure on operational mission. Lt [ ] Böhmert and two NCOs believed slightly injured. Aircraft 80% damaged – write-off."

Not much new here, although possibly the difference in name spelling between our info on the first incident and yours might account for why Peter Cornwell couldn't find these in the VDK list. I'm sure that he'll check this out.

Regards,

steve sheridan 29th January 2012 11:53

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Good morning Larry, thank you for the information on these two queries,
i shall be following up on the the names provided.
Strange why theres so little recorded particularly with casualties involved!

Best regs,
Steve.

Larry Hickey 29th January 2012 17:26

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hello Steve,

Peter did check out the alternative name spellings on item #1, but with no result. If you do produce any results from your search about the full names of these crewmen, please let me know and we'll update the DB.

Regards.

steve sheridan 30th January 2012 11:49

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Thank you very much for your efforts Larry, i will certainly let you know.

Best regs,
Steve.

Matti Salonen 4th February 2012 14:49

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
1940-08-01, 8./KG 53, He 111H, Eßfeld bei Giebelstadt, Absturz um 23.20 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.
Altacher, Hans, Lt + (Von 2./KG 53)
Seddig, Alfred, Lt, + (Von I/KG 53)

Matti

Larry Hickey 4th February 2012 16:45

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Matti,

Are these from the NVMs? Obviously the spelling of the names differs from what PC came up with for these losses.

Regards,

Matti Salonen 4th February 2012 17:33

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
There is no NVM for this accident available. However, the data is originated from WASt documents and should be more reliable than that from GQM.

Matti

Andreas Brekken 4th February 2012 18:39

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hi.

I believe the name Altacher could be Austrian?

Regards,
Andreas B

Andreas Brekken 4th February 2012 18:43

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hi

Found in VDK under Altacher. Born in Süd-Tirol

Regards,
Andreas B

steve sheridan 4th February 2012 19:23

Re: Heinkel 111 losses KG53 early august 1940.
 
Hi Matti, many thanks to you for clarifying the correct names for this incident.
Much appreciated!

Best regs,
Steve,


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