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Roger Gaemperle 30th January 2012 12:24

Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Hello,

Does anybody know who may have flown a Bf 110 G with FuG 220 and the code G9+JA with either a double or (more likely) a triple chevron on its fuselage sides?

Cheers,
Roger

Roger Gaemperle 2nd February 2012 13:25

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Nobody? I would have thought that an aircraft wearing a double (or triple) chevron would be quite easy to identify.

Cheers,
Roger

ju55dk 2nd February 2012 14:35

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Well do you have a photo?

Junker

Roger Gaemperle 6th February 2012 18:55

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Unfortunately not :(

Jim P. 6th February 2012 23:29

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
I don't have any losses for a 110 with that code. What is your reference for this machine?

Roger Gaemperle 7th February 2012 14:23

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
I was offered a photo of that plane, but did not get a preview yet. I thought it may be a well known plane as it carried a double or triple chevron. But apparently, it is not commonly known. As it was found at the end of the war, it was probably not mentioned in a loss list. I will try to get it for my next book.

kaki3152 7th February 2012 17:21

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Ok, from History of the German Night Fighter Force 1917-1945-Aders.
There is a picture of this A/C in this book with the caption:
"The standard Stab chevron fuselage markings were also introduced to the night fighter force early in 1945. The photograph shows the NJG-1 CO's aircraft after it had been crash landed in Sweden by the radar operator of Oblt Jabs in May 1945".
From "The Luftwaffe in Sweden"-The airplane belonged to Oblt Hans_joachim Jabs. Two airmen Fw Fritz Hrachowina and Uffz Alexander Siegfried Koenig flew the airplane to Sweden

kaki3152 7th February 2012 17:24

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Actually the code was G9+AA with a triple chevron. Good pictures in Luftwaffe In Sweden

Simon Schatz 7th February 2012 19:39

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
hmm folks! The plane flown by Jabs had a FuG218 and not FuG220!

Jim P. 7th February 2012 23:08

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
So assuming the photo Roger saw is indeed '<<< G9+JA', might this not be another machines of Jabs?

Roger Gaemperle 8th February 2012 08:19

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
It is +JA. The aircraft is disassembled and mounted onto a rail car for transportation. So, I guess it made an emergency landing or was so damaged that it could not be repaired in the field anymore.

Does anybody have a copy of Jabs flight log? If it survived, it may help to find out if +JA was another machine of Jabs.

Marcel Hogenhuis 8th February 2012 11:37

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Hello Roger,

Perhaps you might be able to ask the seller where the picture of the Bf110 was taken. The reason for my question is, that perhaps a match can be made with one of the many Bf110 described in the Techn.Intelligence reports.

As G9+AA was flown to Sweden, G9+JA must have been Jabs 'predecessor' aircraft before it was damaged (yet repairable). It is known that the amount of available nightfighters exceeded sometimes the number of crews who could use them if there hadn't been that increasing lack of fuel...

Hoping to hear more about this, all the best, Marcel

Roger Gaemperle 8th February 2012 21:05

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Hello Marcel,

Thank you for your thoughts. Fortunately, the location was indicated in the caption: Werl, Germany, April 1945. Does that ring any bells with regards to NJG airfields?

All the best,
Roger

Roger Gaemperle 8th February 2012 21:09

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
PS: With the same group, there is apparently also a photo of a Bf 110 with the code +QS (most likely G9+QS).

Roger

Marcel Hogenhuis 8th February 2012 23:46

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Hello Roger,

Werl does certainly ring bells: there are several recorded Bf110 accidents/losses at/near Werl in 1945, most of these from IV./NJG 1 and II./NJG 1. I will check the several options.

Bf110 G9+QS was found at Krefeld marshalling yards. This bird, a Bf110G-4, had Wnr.730228.

All the best, Marcel

Don Pearson 9th February 2012 01:54

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
1 Attachment(s)
Found this link with a photo


http://alifrafikkhan.blogspot.com/20...jabs-1917.html

Don

Roger Gaemperle 29th August 2020 11:17

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Hello Marcel,

It’s been a long time since, but can you tell me what your source is for the info about 730228 at Krefeld?

All the best Roger

Revi16 29th August 2020 16:04

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...864dd488_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...19b104de_b.jpg

Roger Gaemperle 29th August 2020 16:46

Re: Bf 110 G NJG 1 G9+JA Double or Triple Chevron - Whose a/c was it?
 
Mike,

thanks for sharing this photo. I have another photo of the same “+QS”. It’s great to know the location.

Cheers,

Roger


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