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A few Me-110 photos
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Those Ju 88s must be in Finland, I believe that's a Finnish Dornier Do 17Z between them.
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Assuming that is a Bf110G-2 LN+?R of 13(Z)/JG% in late 1943? The two Ju88's look like they colud be at Malmi or Pori (Finland) being prepared for delivery North. regards Mark |
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Yes, it's a G-2.
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Re: A few Me-110 photos
Those Ju 88s must be in Finland, I believe that's a Finnish Dornier Do 17Z between them.
Supposed to be delivered to Finland ?? Planes completed very beg. of 1943, A-4 CH+ZN is Wn 2400, D-1 KK+RS 430576 Do17 in the middle small markings DN-02... Finns ??? Seems no more appearing in german inventory after februar 43 Remi |
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None of the Ju 88 depicted was for Finland. The Do 17Z in the middle is DN-52 Cheers Stig |
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Bf110 G-2
Not an F according to engine cowlings and bordfunk/gunners position. If you are using LN+NR Bf110F-2 at the Berlin Technische Museum as an example 0 the engine cowlings they have are also wrong! When recovered, they were missing, but had some G models from somewhere. Mark |
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And I know you will reply with DF loop... Do we have another hybrid here...? |
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"Not an F according to engine cowlings and bordfunk/gunners position."
Engine cowling for F and G have the same shape, differences are in air scoop and instruments windows. Unfortunately we can't see if it is a triangular window OR if the three rounded ones area was crudely left unpainted. To my knowledge, no G-2 flew with the B/C/D/E/F canopy model displayed in the photo. The bordfunker position is the same, what changes is the rear portion of the canopy for G-2 and G-4 series. The D/F loop antenna, as you know John, leads to F series. Even if I agree with the engine nacelle instrument windows, it is still 2x1 for the F team, and we would still be in a conundrum created by an hybrid airplane. Unfortunately, since we both aren't on ebay auctions anymore, the possibility of a better analysis of the original or its high res. copy is out of question...? |
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Seriously, fin & rudder points to an 'F' also...? |
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Ju 88s in the picture are at Fl.Pl. Pori between 1943-03-06 and 1943-03-15. KK+RS flew 1943-02-14 from Malmi to Pori and CH+ZH flew 1943-03-06 from Tallin to Pori. The Finnish DN-52 was at Pori 1943-02-15 - 1943-03-15. CH+ZH (Ju 88A-4, WNr. 142400) was delivered to 2./KG 30 and destroyed 1943-05-28 (Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ju 88A-4, Werk.-Nr. 142197. Bruch 100 %). KK+RS (Ju 88D-1, WNr. 430576) was delivered to 1.(F.)/120 and destroyed 1944-03-05 (Notlandung auf See infolge Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %). DN-52 survived the war and flew still in 1940s in the Finnish Air Force.
I strongly suspect, that Bf 110 pix is from the same guy as the other one and therefore possibly taken roughly at the same time at Fl.Pl. Pori. LN+MR was flown from Kemi to Pori 1943-01-23 and it was Bf 110F-2. In March 13.(Z.)/JG 5 got the first three Bf 110G-0 aircraft, but the aircraft in picture seems not to be fresh, factory new. Therefore I vote for F-2 version. Matti |
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Very nice update Matti
However you refer to an A-4 CH+ZH while the photo shows CH+ZN. Is this a typo from your end or do we have to involve a third aircraft into the picture as well? Cheers Stig |
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Should be CH+ZN! Finger trouble.
Matti |
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Kiitos Matti
Now I can relax again :) Cheers Stig |
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