Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Hello,
I'm looking for the serial of the Ju88 coded L4+AK saw on Bricy Luftwaffe Base in 1940 or 1941.
Regards
Franck

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Hello
Have a look belove....

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=303

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=304

Regards
Franck
(May be L1+AK..)http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....&pictureid=304

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Very nice pictures Franck !

Gilles

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

The photo shows a Ju 88 of I/Lehrgeschwader 1 ( Griffin on nose ) and the K means it belongs to the 2nd Staffel . The difficult bit is that that the code is not unique to one aircraft as one L1+AK was lost its replacement would have the same code. The I/LG 1 operated from Bricy between July 1940 and Jan. 1941 however full aircraft aircraft codes do not always appear in records, the unit history shows the following 2/LG 1 losses:-

12-8-40 wn and code not known crashed at Bricy 3 injured 1 killed
4-9-1940 L1+AK wn 4034 40% damaged following enemy fire at Dinard

However both these are Ju88s A-1s while the photos showing the starboard wingtip appears to be the rounded tip of an A-5 but I am not certain on this. There is wn 4141 an A-5 shown with no code and just I/Gr which crashed at Clermont on 4-12-40.

There are other losses to the Ist Gruppe where the staffel is not shown, so the identity of this aircraft cannot be definitely stated on the photos alone,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Hello Brian
Thank's a lot for this information.
I think that this L1+AK is the Wrk. num 4034 because this picture seems to have been shot in the end of summer 40.
if I find more information, I will reply..
Regards
Franck

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Hello Franck, the only thing is looking at the fuselage photo the aileron looks like it is squared off and this aircraft has the extended wing tip of the A-5. With an A-1 with the shorter wing the aileron formed part of the wing tip and was swept back if this is the case I would have thought that your photo is for a possible replacement for Ju88 A-1 L1+AK damaged on the 4-9-40. The photo may indicate a later period than September but hard to be definite. Unfortunately as I said the records do not show the fuselage codes for many of the losses in the period making an identification difficult,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/pictur...&pictureid=305
I think this picture should help you to identify well this type..
regards
Franck

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

From the rear armament an A-1 which puts 4034 back in the running,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Hi Brian. This particular photo (abowe) was part of album lot marked April 1941 - sold on eBay a little while ago - and indeed is Ju 88 A-5 (longer wings), althoug photo may have been taken a little earlier than April, I think, but this plane may have been an A-1 version earlier.

The I/LG 1 moved to Bulgaria for the Yugoslavia/Greece campaign (therefore possibly seen at Orleans/Bricy before April 1941 but may also have moved out from there in April, after possible repair/overhaul - as right engine "Power egg" seems having new and fresh paint) and them two drop tanks suggest a long ferry (eastwards). But this is not facts, just what I think, based on some checks, looking for L1+AK, some weeks ago.

best regards
Ed

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

Hi Ed, Thanks for that, I thought A-5 from the wing but was not certain, then the last photo with the single m.g. put me back to an A-1. Probaly as you say an A-1 repaired to part A-5 standard, it would be a coincidence if it was 4034 damaged 40% on 4-9-40,

All the Best,

Brian Bines

Re: Ju 88 L4+AK
 

I confirm you that this photo well arises from the album sold on e-bay which one of my friends bought. Regrettably, all the photos are stuck and it has no access to their reverse.
best regards
Franck