157 & 235 Sqn Aircrew Christian names
 

Does anyone know the christian names of:

Plt Off G Davidson Nav/rad 157 Sqn
Plt Off H J Thomas pilot 235 Sqn
Flt Sgt T C Price nav 235 Sqn
Flt Sgt E C Day nav 235 Sqn
Fg Off M W Shand pilot 235 Sqn
Flt Sgt R C H Burton nav 235 Sqn

All were on respective sqns late 1943-early 1944

VMT in advance

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Hallo Chris,

At present I can only find 912779 Temporary Flight Sergeant Murray Walcott Shand, promoted to Pilot Officer (118814) with seniority from 18 March 1942.
What interests me about him is that on 21 March 1942 he was pilot of a 254 Squadron Blenheim that shot down a He 111 of 9./KG 40 off the south coast of Ireland. I only have the pages from the 254 Sqn. ORB concerning that sortie, but he is still described as a F/Sgt. on March 21st.
This begs a question from me. Should Shand be shown as an NCO or officer when discussing that combat ?

Hope this helps.

Martin Gleeson.

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Martin-the 540 would be correct as if you look at the date of the Gazette, the promotion would have been backdated. Thanks

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The AIR78 microfilm, did you check them?

The only matching initials are that I can see:

Ronald Cecil Harman BURTON 1302367

Shand and Price ought to be easily found in them I'd think.

Plus he is the only match in FreeBMD.org.uk for those initials. Didn;t check Scotlandspeople site

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Thanks Dennis-it is Ronald Burton (whose last address is 15 miles from where I am typing this). It is also the same Shand so almost there!

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Cheers Chris for notifying me.

Ron 'Ginger' Burton moved form Twyford in the late 1990's with his wife Bunny to the south-west. Ron died in 1998 having just moved.

Was in contact Murray Shand & Tom Armstrong, too, I'll have to dig out the paper records.

Regards

Andy Bird

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'Taff' Thomas

At the height of the 1990's I was in touch with roughly 100 former 235, 248, Squadron chaps, sadly not many remain.

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I have Henry James Thomas, 127152, DFC (LG #36374, Feb 8, 1944/S5 of Feb 11, pg 739; no cit).

I have his observer as T G Price, 176140.

Nothing on G Davidson, but I don't have his pilot's full name either (F/O J L Clifton).

Enjoy!

Frank.

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Frank:

VMT. It was John Clifton and the F540 says T G Price?

Andy

VMT also. Know what you mean-I have in front of me the 248 Sqn Association list dated Nov 93 and there are almost 2 pages worth of names. Armstrong doesn't figure in my research (20 Nov 43)

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http://www.dargies.de/Modellbau/Bild...ito_fbmk6.html
28.9.44 F/Lt H.J. Thomas and F/O T.G. Price, patrol, no sightings

s LG 20 June, 1944 PP 2920-2921
Thomas George PRICE Flt. Sgt. 1137085 commissioned Plt. Off. 176140
backdated 11 Apr. 1944

s LG 19 January, 1943 P 388
John Lowrey CLIFTON Flt. Sgt. 1376614 commissioned Plt. Off. 136320
backdated 31 Oct. 1942
http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-d...ualty/2948374/
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=71695

Re: 157 & 235 Sqn Aircrew Christian names
 

Chris has listed F/O Shand as 235 Sqn. Martin has him as F/Sgt (as I have in my files) in 254 Sqn as at 21 March 1942. Did he move later to 235 Sqn.? I realise that the two squadrons often operated two aircraft patrols together.
Regards
Tony K

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Definitely a Fg Off on 235 Sqn 20 Nov 43

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Many thanks Chris.
regards
Tony K

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Hi Chris,

Tom Armstrong won the "Flying Boot" whilst with 272 Sqn in the ME if my memories correct by walking 100 miles back to British lines. After some R&R post to 235 Sqn flying Beau's.

Apologies can't find his index card with full details.

Take care

Andy Bird