Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

I've been looking at Jennewein for a while and wondered about his reputation. I know that he won the 1939 Nordic World Sky Championship. In his score its different on some web sites. So I've looked in JFV9/II and 12/I.
On the 18Jan43 the 202 BAP made a raid in the Leshkova region with 9 Pe-2 and lost 6 Pe-2.
Jennewein claimed his (20) at 08:01 (21) at 08:02 (22) at 08:03 (23) at 08:05 (24) at 08:06.
(Lt. Joachim Brendel 2./JG51 also claimed in the same battle (16) 08:02 (17) 08:05 (18) 08:09 which sounds more reasonable for actually shooting down a Pe-2)

On 06May43 raid on Orel-Central airfield by 7 Pe-2 of the 24 BAP, there was 3 Pe-2 shot down (No other claims but Jennewein's for Pe-2).
(47) 13:30 (48) 13:31 (49) 13:32 (50) 13:38 (51) 13:42

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

On Jennewein's claims for the 06May43 there were two other Pe-2 that had damages. One of which was wrecked on a forced landing. To give you some of the things wrong in his claims being listed. On Tony Woods list for the 6May43 it has his 47th - 49th victories listed as an Il-2 and missing the 50th. The 51st is listed correctly as an Il-2 with the time of 13:41. In the JFV 12/I it has the Pe-2 listed which matches the type aircraft shot down. The difference in the time for the 51st is only 1 minute (13:42). In my first post I had his 51st victory as Pe-2 when it should be an Il-2.

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Hi, Nokose

I wondered what you ment by this sentence:

'which sounds more reasonable for actually shooting down a Pe-2'

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

There was an article about Jennewein in one of the earliest issues of Czech REVI Magazine...try to look for it. I think they did english translation as well that time...

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Hi Andreas, What I meant was on reading accounts of Pe-2's being shot down it's not easy to shoot one down in one minute. Unless you hit something like the pilot or fuel. Brendel's claims look like he made more then one pass at his target. Jennewein has another battle with a number of claims against Pe-2s that I have no information on.

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Hi Peter, Was the article on Jennewein very long? I'd be interested in what it had on him. I found the other incident for the 23Feb43 involving his dogfight with Pe-2s.

I don't know how many Pe-2 were involved and if the 38 BAP was the only regiment flying with them. Kapt. Nikolay Titovich Mikhaylov was leading a raid on Zikeevo station at 12:20 (Moscow) and were attacked by FW 190. Eight crews didn't return.

1./JG51 Oblt. Hans Boos Pe-2 (35) 10:38 44173
2./JG51 Oblt. Edwin Thiel Pe-2 (43) 10:39 44294
2./JG51 Fw Helmut Lange Pe-2 (6) 10:40 54172
2./JG51 Obfw Josef Jennewein Pe-2 (30) 10:40 44292
Oblt Thiel Pe-2 (44) 10:41 44264
Obfw Jennewein Pe-2 (31) 10:42 54123
Oblt Thiel Pe-2 (45) 10:45 44264
Obfw Jennewein Pe-2 (32) 10:45 54114
Oblt Thiel Pe-2 (46) 10:46 54142
Obfw Jennewein Pe-2 (33) 10:48 54111
Obfw Jennewein Pe-2 (34) 10:55 54143

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

In reference to the 23Feb43 dogfight let me add before the overclaiming stuff starts that I went back and counted the number crews missing of the 38 BAP and found only 7 crews missing but did find that there were 4 crews also of the 261 BAP that were lost. The 261 BAP could be from earlier in the morning but the same area.

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Hi Nokose,

Could Anton Lindner's claim against a Pe-2 at 0734hrs account for one of 261 BAP's losses?

Nick

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Nick on focusing in it looks like the time is 12:12 (Moscow) next to the date which is probably the take off time. The only one knowing for sure here is probably Nikita Ergov from the documents.

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Hi Nokose,
sorry was on vacation and now I cannot find the issue of the article..will work on it.

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Peter, the article is in issue 1 (1/1994) of Revi and is only one page (Page 34) written in Czech and has a colour profile of his Black 5 near the front cover.

Cheers

Chris

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

aaah, thanks, I know why I could not find it, I miss issue 1...:( just remembered the article...sorry

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Peter, to bad you don't have it would like to have known what it had to say. I'll try and find some more of his claims. I thought that with the one instance with the Pe-2 he might be "pushing" his score. The Soviet aviators on the 6May43 described the attack as 6-10 FW 190 coming from all directions but it seems that Jennewein was the only one making any claims.

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Hi Nokose,
do you know this page?
http://luftwaffe.cz/jennewein.html
I think Petr uses also the mentioned article to complet the list...no 6.3.1943 claim...
regards

Peter

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Hello Nokose,

There were four claims for Pe-2s made by Ofw. Josef Jennewein on 6 May 1943 (his 47th - 50th) at 13.30, 13.31, 13.32 and 13.38 hours. He was a sole member of I. Gruppe who made claims against Petlyakovs, although there were no fewer than 27 claims made by I./JG 51 on this date. Source: JFV 12/I, p. 491 by Prien et al. Hope this helps.

Ota

Re: Obfw. Josef "Pepi" Jennewein JG51
 

Jennewein re-training on Fw190 with staffel picture

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Jagdflieger-J...QAAOSwYIhWjl5K