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hanshauprich 14th June 2012 11:43

Lancaster under friendly fire
 
The Film "The Fight for the Sky" U.S. War Department shows a lot of strafing against the Luftwaffe. But one scene is quite different: The strafing of an crashlanded Lancaster!!! The plane crashlanded in an open aera, maybee in late spring or early summertime. Any idea of the location, unit?

Thanks,
h.

Leendert 14th June 2012 21:16

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Hans,

The film is on youtube. To have a quick(er) look in the 41-min movie, around what time is the Lancaster strafing?


Regards,

Leendert

ian hunt 15th June 2012 00:15

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
31:12 looks like a Lancaster - 4 engines, twin tail. And at 31:14 you can definitely see the roundels.

27:41 looks like a Mosquito to me!

Ian

ian hunt 15th June 2012 00:36

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Spitfire at 21:29?

Ian

brewerjerry 15th June 2012 06:01

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian hunt (Post 149585)
Spitfire at 21:29?

Ian

Hi
Yep looks a it like one to me.
cheers
Jerry

brewerjerry 15th June 2012 06:04

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian hunt (Post 149584)
27:41 looks like a Mosquito to me!

Ian

Hi
yep,
maybe the old story ?
..... thought it was a friendly.... so only gave it a short burst..
cheers
Jerry

mhuxt 15th June 2012 16:29

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brewerjerry (Post 149596)
Hi
yep,
maybe the old story ?
..... thought it was a friendly.... so only gave it a short burst..
cheers
Jerry

British Pathe has that clip as well. It's a Mossie of 140 Sqn lost to two Mustangs of the 4th FG.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=53552

The whole sad Mossie sequence starts around 3:35.

ian hunt 16th June 2012 00:41

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Sorry that this is drifting a bit off-thread but interesting in that British Pathe one to see an Me 163 Komet at about 4:16.

Along with a load of B-17s being shot up on the ground.

Ian

lampie 17th June 2012 00:18

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Always enjoy seeing Bob Winters spectacular 190 on Sept 21st 1944.
2.55 on the Pathe film.

Nige
www.56thfightergroup.co.uk

Col Bruggy 17th June 2012 05:38

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Hello mhuxt,

Could you please tell me the date on which the two Mustangs of the 4th FG, shot down the No.140 Sqn Mosquito?

Col.

ian hunt 17th June 2012 10:11

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Hi Col

If the two sections on that bit of the film are one and the same event (it looks like they probably are although the target a/c in the first clip of the film is much further away and it's not easy to see what it is) the 'preview notice' just beforehand says 6th October 1944.

Anyone know what happened to the poor guys in the Mossie?

Ian


ps Sorry Hans, we do seem to have drifted well off your original question about the i/d and location of the Lancaster being strafed.

udf_00 17th June 2012 10:29

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Thread about the Pathe clip here : http://forum.keypublishing.com/archi...p?t-96660.html

Col Bruggy 17th June 2012 11:40

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Thanks Ian,

udf_00's link has answered my question.

Col.

hanshauprich 17th June 2012 17:09

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian hunt (Post 149712)
Hi Col

If the two sections on that bit of the film are one and the same event (it looks like they probably are although the target a/c in the first clip of the film is much further away and it's not easy to see what it is) the 'preview notice' just beforehand says 6th October 1944.

Anyone know what happened to the poor guys in the Mossie?

Ian


ps Sorry Hans, we do seem to have drifted well off your original question about the i/d and location of the Lancaster being strafed.

Hello Ian,

no problem, thats very interested and at the Pathe film I was able to located one scene at September 44!! The Mossie looks a little bit like an Me 410.
Hans

ian hunt 17th June 2012 21:37

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Hi Hans

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanshauprich
Hello Ian,
... The Mossie looks a little bit like an Me 410.
Hans



You're not American are you?...

;)

Ian

mhuxt 18th June 2012 07:55

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
Please don't start on that, I only posted the other link for the sake of information, as you see the incident is no secret and has been discussed before.

Would much rather know the serial of the Lanc originally under discussion.

ian hunt 18th June 2012 21:47

Re: Lancaster under friendly fire
 
mh

No offence intended nor, I hope, taken. Just teasin' re Hans's ancestry as that's what the fighter pilots thought.

But seriously, as pointed out, the thread has drifted a bit so like you say it'd be interesting if we could find out anything about the Lanc. No clues as far as I could see in the film.

Ian


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