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SALERNO1943 23rd June 2012 18:21

From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Some idea about those parts? Came from a Luftwaffe crash site in south Italy, 25 km sout of Salerno (perhaps crashed 29 sept 1943). As soon as possible I'll post other fragments.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5679/dvc09107.jpg

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/2650/dvc09106.jpg

Snautzer 24th June 2012 12:29

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Aircraft oxygen pressure gauge (Sauerstoffdruckmesser für Luftfahrzeug)
see

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Luftw...s/L013662.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-German-...-/200684730489

SALERNO1943 24th June 2012 20:16

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Thank. I hope to post photos of other fragments we find. We find a lot of fragments but not 1 (one) bullet. Do you know if german fighters expulse all fired ammunition??

SALERNO1943 24th June 2012 21:21

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Here is another label from this crash site. Some idea about aircraft that used it?
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4238/dvc09108.jpg
Thanks from Salerno 1943 Air Finders
www.1943salerno.it
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S Sheflin 24th June 2012 23:13

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Hello Salerno,

Regarding the first plate you posted, I don’t know upon what it was mounted, but at a minimum I show LGW Hakenfelde as producing aircraft instruments:

LGW Hakenfelde = Luftfahrtgerätewerk Hakenfelde GmbH, Berlin-Spandau, Streitstr. 5-17. Hersteller code = hdc.

LGW Hakenfelde = Luftfahrtgerätewerk Hakenfelde GmbH (für ausländische Zulieferer), Berlin-Spandau, Streister. 5-17. Hersteller code = nhu.

Unless I am mistaken, your second plate appears to be from a FuG16Z radio set. Among other types, these radios were often found in late model Bf109Gs and K-4s, Fw190A-8s and A-9s, as well as Fw190D-9s. The installation of FuG16Z radio sets can be deduced by the fitting of under wing Moraine masts.

Steve Sheflin

veltro 25th June 2012 11:54

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 150235)
your second plate appears to be from a FuG16Z radio set. Among other types, these radios were often found in late model Bf109Gs and K-4s, Fw190A-8s and A-9s, as well as Fw190D-9s. The installation of FuG16Z radio sets can be deduced by the fitting of under wing Moraine masts.

Although I am pointing out an obvious thing, none of the types cited above can be involved in a crash in Salerno area in Fall 1943...

SALERNO1943 25th June 2012 11:58

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veltro (Post 150265)
Although I am pointing out an obvious thing, none of the types cited above can be involved in a crash in Salerno area in Fall 1943...

Thanks. The date of crash should be 27 september 1943....

Andrew Arthy 25th June 2012 12:54

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Hi,

Are you sure about the possible crash dates, 27 or 29 September 1943? There was bad weather from 27 to 29 September, and almost no German missions were flown on those days. On 27 September only a few reconnaissance sorties were flown. On 28 September only five reconnaissance sorties were flown. On 29 September only a handful of sorties were flown. I can find no losses in the Salerno area on those days.

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

Snautzer 25th June 2012 13:00

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
ju88 had both

edit_ FuG16ZS radio set would be carried by Schlacht airplanes. Different receiver on the ground: Bodenfunkstelle Fu5/Luft

SALERNO1943 25th June 2012 13:12

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
The date is not sure because writer of book is not accurate. Crash can be from Summer 1943 to september 1943. Location is Acerno. Pilot bailed out according to writer. Thanks for your help.

SALERNO1943 25th June 2012 22:32

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Here are some other photos:

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6223/dvc09132.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/116/dvc09133.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5463/dvc09134.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9713/dvc09135.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8223/dvc09136.jpg

SALERNO1943 26th June 2012 11:24

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Many thanks for all informations. We had find 2 crash site of USA aircraft in this place, Acerno, 25 km south\east from Salerno.

One is B-24 of lt. Prchal, shot down 11 jan. 1943 (see our reportage here http://www.1943salerno.it/ritrovamen...liberator.html)

The other is A-36 of lt. Gossett, shot down 27 sept. 1943 (see our reportage here http://www.1943salerno.it/ritrovamen...-42-83976.html

In the MACR about lt. Gossett we are unable to read reason of crash. However in the report about Prchal shot down we read in the book LIBERANDOS, p. 92, that bombers were attacked by a Me109 tha was shot down after he shot down Prchal and Payne aircraft. Perhaps this can be aircraft we find? Do you have any news about Me109 shot down 11 january 1943? Thanks.

Snautzer 26th June 2012 13:14

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
gerat 124-70 a is from a Fug 16 sender

SALERNO1943 26th June 2012 14:23

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Here are some other fragments. Some idea??

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7516/dvc09141.jpg

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9343/dvc09142.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2238/dvc09143.jpg

Mark 114

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4563/dvc09144.jpg

left hole S, right hole E

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6573/dvc09145.jpg

gum 561443

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4681/dvc09146.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/268/dvc09147.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3216/dvc09148.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5861/dvc09149.jpg

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7696/dvc09150.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4049/dvc09151.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3880/dvc09152.jpg

SALERNO1943 30th July 2012 22:13

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Here are other fragments found saturday:
Netzausschalter Fl 32315-2
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/906/dvc00665.jpg
R8-2089-U04 e 35050
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3264/dvc00716.jpg
Diameter 13 cm
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3645/dvc00717.jpg
Diameter 17 cm
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9792/dvc00718.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5525/dvc00719.jpg
....teblock
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4030/dvc00720.jpg
Diameter 65 mm
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8018/dvc00721.jpg
List 126-856-U01 Fl 32110-4
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/355/dvc00722.jpg
Fl 32405-1 40V 40A
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1478/dvc00723.jpg
Diameter 40 mm, read number 80
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6167/dvc00724.jpg
93P
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3182/dvc00725.jpg
5 cm.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/241/dvc00726.jpg

Nick Beale 30th July 2012 22:30

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SALERNO1943 (Post 150335)

The other is A-36 of lt. Gossett, shot down 27 sept. 1943 (see our reportage here http://www.1943salerno.it/ritrovamen...-42-83976.html

In the MACR about lt. Gossett we are unable to read reason of crash.

I read the cause of Gossett's loss "bad weather" but I also found the accompanying witness statement impossible to read.

Tony Kambic 30th July 2012 23:18

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
The plate in your thread #11 has some similarity of the Radio Altimeter access panel under the right wing of the NASM He-219. See attached:

harrison987 31st July 2012 17:28

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
HI,

This is an Me109. I recognize 95% of the parts...

;)

Mike

SALERNO1943 31st July 2012 17:32

Re: From a Luftwaffe crash site 25 km south Salerno. Some idea?
 
Thanks. Do you have photo of Me109 to compare parts?


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