War Diaries of Helmut Lipfert
 

Hello,

I was wondering if anybody has this book? If so, if theres any fotos/references to Me 109G-10's could you please list them here. Many thanks in advance =)

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Afaik, there is only two pictures from a "fitness event" with the tail section of a 109 with small tailwheel, dated ca. October 1944.

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BTW, Great book. One of the best Luftwaffe pilot memoirs, told honestly and straight forwardly from a fighter pilot view's point, by a pilot that was clearly one of the great fighter pilots in the East.

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The book is stilll listed in Schiffer's catalog.

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Do you remember if its the tall or short tail? When did the first WNF G-10's were delivered? Thanks.

BTW,

excellent work with TD.. looking foward to v4.12!

Have you seen my 'Rosemarie' on A&A?

War Diaries of Helmut Lipfert
 

Hello Oberst

According to Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-10/U4 by JaPo the first Bf 109 G-10 fighters were manufactured by Erla in September 1944 with Regensburg building 121 of this type between October 1944 and January 1945. Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke began manufacturing the Bf 109 G-10 in December 1944. I hope this information is accurate and helpful.

Horrido!

Leo

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Very helpful Leo! I'm trying to determine when Lipfert recieved his G-10, I'm pretty sure its a WNF G-10/U4 if he got it when he was with II./JG 51. Not sure of the date that would be though.. late 1944 maybe?

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P141.
17 Oct 1944 :
"At this time I received a a Bf 109 armed with a 30mm cannon,..."

PP.141-43
First claims with it on 23 Oct 44.

JG 52.

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Hi,

II./J.G. 52 took its first Bf 109 G-10s on strength in December 1944, and these were G-10/U4s. In October 1944 it took on strength the Bf 109 G-14. See this page: http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg52.html

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

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This is interesting. The same source shows that II./JG 51 did NOT recieve any G-10's, only G-14/AS in Oct/Nov/Dec 1944.

ME 109G-10 'White 11 + -' "Rosemarie" of II./JG 52 shows the painted over gruppe II mark of II./JG 51.

How can this be if II./JG 51 had no G-10? Did 'Rosemarie' start out with JG52, went to II./JG 51 then return to II./JG 52?

Perplexing...

Re: War Diaries of Helmut Lipfert
 

Hi 'Oberst',

When was Lipfert serving with II./J.G. 51? As far as I can tell he was with 6./J.G. 52 until taking command of I./J.G. 53 in mid-February 1945.

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

War Diaries of Helmut Lipfert
 

Hi guys

According to Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-10/U4 by JaPo the first unit to be assigned the Bf 109 G-10/U4 was I./JG 53 in late December 1944. II./JG 51 and II./JG 52 received the type in early January 1945. It should be noted that II./JG 52 absorbed both pilots and aircraft of the other two Gruppen as these were disbanded with this occurring on 12 April 1945 with regards to II./JG 51 and on 17 April 1945 with regards to I./JG 53. I hope this information is accurate and helpful.

Horrido!

Leo

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So he would have got his G-10 a little before 22.12.44. So its possible his was 'Rosemarie'. I wonder if he mentions in his book? I must order it.

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a little bit OT, but... the "Sportfest"-pictures I was referring to above, show one G-6 style tail with Werknummer 510915, whic should be a G-14 from Wien (WNF).

Does anyone know about the fate of this airframe?

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The master I / JG 53 Maj. Jürgen Harder received orders to leave on January 21 to Berlin later took command of JG 11, a group led by January 22 Hptm. Ernst, originally a member of the III. / JG 77 all groups of Veszprém, ie II. / JG 52, I / JG 53 and 101.vadászezred with January 22 attended by intensive air combat with Yak-9 and IL-2 again at Székesfehérvár. The loss was mainly affected by JG 52, was in a duel shot down and wounded Uffz. Wilhelm Wagner in Bf 109G-14, W.Nr. 510 659, "Black 3" from 5 Staffel, Lt. died. Bruno Steins Bf 109G-14, W.Nr. 510 845, "Yellow 7 from 6.Staffel, was shot down and another Machine sixth / JG 52, and Bf 109G-14, W.Nr. 510 915. The pilot remained unhurt, and rescued the pilots Bf 109G-10, W.Nr. 610 418 and Bf 109G-14, W.Nr. 464 491 which collided in the air. Last record relates to the Bf 109G-10, W.Nr. 610 414, "White 5" from 7 / JG 52, which damaged an emergency landing in Veszprém. For the JG 52 Hptm claimed successes. Lipfert (1x) and Lt. Ewald (4), both of 6.Staffel and Lt. JG 53. Fischer (2) from 1.Staffel. Hungary, 101/3 vadászezred affected by loss of two Messerschmitt, the Bf 109G-10, W.Nr. 610 389 and Bf 109G-6, W.Nr. 167 245, another Bf 109G-6, W.Nr. 167 309, was seriously damaged. A day later, on January 23, was shot down in the same space Uffz. Erich Rombach Bf 109G-10, W.Nr. 610 522, "Black 7" (5 / JG 52) and Uffz. Anton Kellmayer crash-landed in the "White 4" (7 / JG 52). his machine could be a Bf 109G-10, W.Nr. 610 514.

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Any information somebody can provide for Uffz.Gerd Hauter of II./JG52?

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I don't know the name of Lipfert's first wife, whom he married in Krakau in the 2nd half of 1944. His second wife whom he married before the end of the war is named Margot. I doubt, he called his A/C "Rosemarie", being married to a "Margot".

BTW, where is the link to that Rosemarie-skin?

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Hmmm, that takes care of that then. The Hunt continues. I'm sure Gerhard Richter was not 'Rosemarie' pilot.

The skin isn't ready yet.. but soon =)


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Very nice, Thanks - also for the infos on the other G-14's fate.