JG 2 - Volume Three
 

Expected by the end of this month. In French and there are no plans to produce an English language version.


http://www.christian-schmidt.com/pro...oducts_id=8557




Usual disclaimer,
Ed

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Hi Ed,

Thank you for having pointed out this release.
I am very excited about this book. It has been a tremendous work to achieve this volume. Several hundreds photos, most of them never seen before, many first hand accounts, new documents, tables, map… as usually for "my" chronicles.

I wanted to precise something regarding your sentence "there are no plans to produce an English language version". In fact, I really would like to publish such one. So, let's say "no schedule" rather than "no plan". Honnestly, the sales of volume 1 were not satisfying and I have to sell many more to be able to produce the volume 2. So, I really can not confirm that this volume 2 will come soon in English and I feel sorry about that, first of all for the enthusiast who bought the volume 1… and for Neil Page who is nearly ready with the translation.

By the way, I am also pleased to inform you about the release of Luftwaffe Gallery (LuGa) #3. You can have a look on my web-site www.luftwaffe.be.

Both books, as well as all my other books, can be purchased directly from myself since I am an independant man: I start researching the veterans, interview them, write their memories, research in the archives, make the book lay-out, contact the printer, store the books and finally go to the post with your parcel... Exhausting but exciting.

Best regards

Erik

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Hi Erik,


Thank you for the additional information. I work for a small book publishing company. We do not have to interview veterans or go to any archives, but I understand what you do and appreciate your work very much.



Regards,
Ed West

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Hi,

I received today my book. This volume 3 is in the continuity of the two previous. Text very easy to read, prints which are not thumbnails and not published on two pages.

I have particularly liked the photos taken at Ligescourt and Poix

Very good work in waiting the year 1943 !

Bertrand

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Please,English editions,please!

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Much as I appreciate all the work that went into making such a book, I'm not very willing to pay $70 for it (not to mention shipping costs).
Especially when I see books like Werner Girbig's Jagdgeschwader 5, a hardcover, 320-page book to be published this month by Schiffer (in English), which I have just pre-ordered at Amazon at a mere $27.10.

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Lagarto, Girbig's book is in small format, and probably has less than half the text Erik's book has. Plus that as far as I know, Girbig's original work was written in the 1970s/1980s, i.e. is based on much older research.

BUT, I have to agree that the price is too steep. To put things into perspective, in Europe you can buy After the Battle's big large format 600-page "Battle of France" for less than one of Erik's books and After the Battle's books do have superior layout and paper and binding. The way I see it the price for a 240-page or so book should be below 50 euros with shipping.

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How would cost all the researches, correspondances, interviews, time spent on roads made by Eric and consorts with their chronicles? These are priceless. I think 70 Euros of the 'finished product' worths it.
I agree, a chronicle with 4-5 tomes are expensive and for instances, 1942 tome, is beyond of my scope of researches (1944 should be more useful) but we need to encourage the fews researchers to undertake such an hard task, otherwise who can make it?

ClinA-78

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The higher the price, the fewer customers. It's OK if you sell luxury sports cars but books are not in that department. If the the sales of volume 1 are not satisfying, maybe it means that the price is too steep, and not because there is not enough interest in the book? Or maybe self-publishing is not that good idea after all.
I had the same problem with JG 4's book. When the first volume came out, I paid $80 for it (+ shipping), but with the second volume I gave up. It's just too expensive for me, sorry.

By the way, I'm sure Brian Cull did all the researches, correspondences and interviews just as well when working on "Fighters over the Aegean", and still his book (a 224-page hardcover) can be pre-ordered at $17.69.

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The problem with some small/self publishers is the marketing and small print runs. Small print runs drive up the unit cost significantly, and the higher unit costs has a significant impact on sales. It seems that the only books that go at almost any price are those specifically aimed at either collectors or academic institutions.

Another significant issue regarding marketing is the ease of buying, or lack of it. Quite a many potential customers have gotten used to the ease of online orders with a few mouse clicks.

In Europe it is clear that postal companies are not helping either by having so expensive shipping costs. Books, being dense and even when packed being easy to handle and not requiring plenty of space should really have lower cost shipping available but it seems that only the USPS has such a rate.

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Dear all,

First of all, thank you for starting this debate and my thanks to those who have participated or who are willing to offer a comment here. I am very interested to read all your opinions since I have recently been considering exactly how to proceed with my book series especially with regards to the sensitive issue of pricing. In fact on price I have already taken a decision communicated just last month to the various bookshops stocking my books and which I will attempt to explain here.

To return to certain points raised in the various posts here. In my view the general and ‘elderly’ history of JG 5 – dating from the 1970s- that Schiffer are finally publishing is frankly a long way from my detailed JG 5 history published over four large-format volumes representing more than 1,000 pages and nearly 2,000 photos in a day-by-day diary format. Incidentally, while the Schiffer book appears under Girbig’s name, it was largely researched and compiled by Erich Mikat. The original manuscript was entrusted to me by the JG 5 veterans association along with their archive when I took on the task of writing the history of this Geschwader. Of course if a general Osprey-style overview is all that the reader is looking for then this new book is probably fine – so far as it goes.

I suppose we should note – if not perhaps entirely understand – a work that skims the surface is probably adequate for a certain readership. However if the enthusiast wants more detail, more pictures – in short much more depth - then we get into much more specialised areas. That of course involves its own costs.

Speaking personally, lists of names whether of aces or their claims has never been enough for me. Those who know my books will appreciate that I always try where possible to place a person in a precise historical context, both militarily and, where I can, on a human level. I tend to think that this is not just ‘history’ but on one level ‘psychology’ and such a presentation lends itself to a better understanding of events that took place seventy years ago and helps to inject a ‘spark of life’ into the stories of those young men whose lives were cruelly cut short in their 20s. Perhaps some readers are not at all interested in the sort of information that appear in letters such as the one that follows, but these are the types of details – if I can find them - that I want in my books.

Take one particular example that comes to mind from the latest volume of my JG 2 history; the death of Gottfried Weiser, a member of Liesendahl’s Jabostaffel, who was KIA on 31 March 1942. Does the following letter add anything to our understanding of events in the history of JG 2. I personally tend to think so. Others though may find it superfluous;

“ Dear Mr. Oblt. Liesendahl,

.. I received your news that our son Gottfried is not coming back home. We have received his personal effects. Unfortunately on the day that Uffz. Mücke delivered them to Brieg, my wife was visiting me at Schießwasser. We only returned home the following day. We so much wanted to talk to your officer!

“ So we know that Gottfried has died. He has thus joined his elder brother Erich, an Oberleutnant in a Stuka unit, who was killed on 1 June 1940 near Dunkirk as he was leading an attack against a troop transport vessel in the port itself. What a horrible coincidence of fate! Erich’s last words as reported to us were “ I am attempting an emergency landing..” Despite all our efforts we have been unable since to ascertain the whereabouts, either of Erich himself, his radio operator or his aircraft. Gottfried was driven to avenge the death of his brother. He was eager to go into combat and now he has been taken in his prime.

“ And can you imagine, Mr. Liesendahl, that on the very same day in Schießwasser that we learnt of Gottfried’s death we were told that our last son had also fallen on the Western Front on March 1st. For us as parents this is an unbearable burden, especially if we tell you that our brother-in-law Doctor Strauss was also killed last February with the rank of Leutnant on the Eastern Front.

In three months we have received three death notices in the family! Yet we carry on because we want to win this war, we must win this war and a war such as this demands sacrifices. Has any trace of Gottfried been found on a beach somewhere or has the Channel swallowed up both our sons so completely that we shall never know where either one lies.

“ In conclusion I would like to send to both you and your Staffel, to which Gottfried was so proud to belong, and to all his comrades, our best wishes and much success, but also our hopes that you will all one day return home to us here in Germany..

Sincere greetings,

your J. Weiser Hauptmann”


So you will probably say, "OK, that’s fine, but is it a reason to make your books so expensive?” Well, try to put a cost on 50 hotel nights per year in Germany, two or three hours of work on a manuscript per day over the past twenty five years; printing and postage costs, storage costs and wholesalers who offer you a margin of just $1 per book for your own book - you can appreciate that only a small percentage of my costs in writing, research and book production, whether financial, or in time and energy, are covered. It is easy to get discouraged and sometimes I wonder whether the amount of work and effort involved in producing such volumes is appreciated at all. It has never been my intention to ‘make money’ from this hobby (which by definition brings no financial reward) but the past twenty five years has been rich in rewarding contacts...even so to pay for the second volume in a series, the first has to pay its way..


Take the example of the first English-language volume in this series, JG 2/1. As I believed the American market would be interested in this work, I organised a print run in China for distribution via the West coast of the US. With hindsight this was a mistake – the print and binding quality was inferior to what I could have expected from a book produced in Europe – Jukka’s remark hit the nail on the head. Importing the book into the US was out of the question since my original distributor ripped me off and I am now paying to ‘re-import’ my books back to Europe. Roughly speaking I have covered my production and distribution costs when I have sold two thirds (2/3) of the print run. The last third is not exactly ‘profit’ but represents a cash sum that is re-invested into the production of the following volume in the series. Thus far I have sold only 300 copies of JG 2/1 in English – I need to sell an equivalent number before even considering JG 2/2 in English.

Of course the numbers of veterans that I can contact is diminishing rapidly and with their disappearance my travel costs are also decreasing – there are correspondingly fewer trips to Germany and Austria to make. Therefore the costs of producing each book are consequently decreasing. This is why I have recently decided that I can price my large unit history volumes at under 50 Euros for those books purchased directly from myself. However I doubt whether my books are price sensitive – the audience is simply too restricted. I also doubt whether book sellers will bring their prices down in line with my new pricing structure as they of course have their own costs and sales criteria to take into consideration. So much for my contribution to this debate. Thanks for reading!

Erik

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300 copies sold? That is a shamefully low figure! As one who did buy a copy I do urge others to do the same!

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I don't want to drag this argument on, but I doubt the fact that Schiffer's book on JG 5 is 'elderly' and general has anything to do with its affordable price. Either way, it's the only book of that kind on JG 5 in English, so it's always better than nothing.
The "Mediterranean Air War" vol. I by Christopher Shores (560 pages, hardcover) is neither outdated nor general; it can be bought at Amazon for some $40 and delivered free. "Day Fighters in Defence of the Reich: A War Diary, 1942-45" by Donald Caldwell (424 pages, hardcover), also published this year, is even cheaper than that.
I can't comment on JG 2 vol. I, but I do own JG 4 vol. I, which is barely some 230 pages long, big format (which has no special appeal to me) but also big font and double-columned text with large spacing, for a staggering $80 + shipping. No offense but I also had to work hard to earn those 80 bucks, and I had mixed feelings when I received my copy.

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Lagarto, I have no doubt about Girbig's book age. And it does have something to do with its price. And it needs to be emphasized, that much of the cheaper price of the two books you listed (Caldwell, Shores) has to do with print run. Erik's post implies that fewer than 1000 copies were printed. Now, even with a print run of 2000 copies the unit cost is substantially lower than with 1000 copies.

Then another issue is the cost of photos. If I recall it right, Erik's book(s) do have plenty of photos from official German and Froggish (eerr...French, offense intented) archives that in the European archival tradition charge more or less exorbitant fees for the publishing rights of their photos, unlike the US National Archives who does not on the grounds that since the taxpayer has already paid for the photos they shouldn't be charged twice. I am not sure of ECPA fees, but the going price for official Finnish Army photos is a tad over 53 euros per photo for a single time publishing right plus scanning (incl. VAT). So, if the book has 200 such photos, that is over 10000 euros in total.

As for the font, I do also hate the font chosen, but large format books must have at least 2 columns, preferably 3 or 4, to be well readable, as the ideal column width is 5-7 cm.

Finally, some of Erik's pricing in the US must take into account that at some stage, not too long ago, you could buy 1.4 dollars or more with 1 euro, now it is down to 1.2. And that is a difference of over 15 %.

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and about the French... (not only talked in Froggyland but also in Frituurland); that is a very good opportunity - for our English-speaking friends and others - to learn this pleasant and rich language (the same way I am learning English in reading aviation topics and using this forum!) ;)

Best regards

ClinA-78

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All I’m saying is that Mr Mombeeck should be able to market his books at $40, not twice as much, sell not 300 copies, but twice as many, and make everybody happy, himself included. I’m afraid his present approach will lead him nowhere, which is a pity, because I, too, would love to have a good, multi-volume JG 2 book (in English) at an affordable price.
By the way, I’m not picking on him personally. I’ve been looking forward to “Focke-Wulf Fw 190 in the Battle for Sicily” by Morten Jessen – until I saw the price. Isn’t it another case of a small publisher, who can’t afford to sell his books any cheaper?

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$40 would be an impossible price with 600 sold copies. Well, perhaps doable if he could sell those copies pre-publication. As for Mosrten's book, I have not seen it, but the specs (format and page count) are quite close to this:http://www.amazon.com/French-Battles...5831818&sr=1-1

Note the cover price of $74.95. And USNI is a big publisher for a specialist publisher.

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Wouldn't we all, have you ever considered writing one? For all kinds of reasons, most of us would never take on the work or the financial risk of actually researching and publishing a book ourselves. I know the amount of time, money and effort I put into documenting just six weeks in the life of a single Gruppe of JG 2, so I can only admire anyone who tackles a whole Geschwader's history over six years.

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I think I've given examples of authors who put just as much time and effort in their work, and still their books are not even nearly as expensive. Perhaps their publishing arrangements are better?
Anyway, I consider the argument "if you don't like the price, write the book yourself" rather cheap. Are you missing the point? I too admire anyone who tackles a whole Geschwader's history over six years, but only 300 copies sold says something, doesn't it? Especially, when it means no plans for another volume in English.
It's so easy to say, 'this book is worth its price'. Sure, in terms of time, money and effort invested, it's probably worth $100, $500 or more. So what? How many people are willing to pay that much?

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No, it's an entirely pertinent argument and on reflection I hope you'll accept it's not a "cheap" one. If you haven't written the work you would like to see then I am sure you have your reasons, although you haven't given them. If you have reasons, you might consider whether those could likewise explain why nobody else has written such a book either.

As I understand it, neither of the examples you gave of less expensive books (Chris Shores and Don Caldwell) is self-published, they come from Grub Street and Frontline respectively. You also noted that Arthy and Jessen's Fw 190/Sicily book was more expensive than either — this again is self-published (to a very high standard); Jan Horn's self-published "Das Flurschaden-Geschwader" had a run of 500 copies and costs €88.

Working with a publisher necessarily entails the author surrendering a degree of control (it's their money you're risking, not your own) and some "battles" along the way are all but inevitable. Self-publishing gives the author far greater control at the price of greater financial risk and (I imagine) fewer economies of scale. Result: you get the book the author wanted to present but at a higher price.

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There must be dozens of books that I'd like to see and I couldn't possibly write them all by myself, that's nonsense - I'd like to buy such books but it doesn't mean that I'm willing to accept every price thrown at me. Hope it sounds like a good reason.
I can only be grateful to those authors who did agree to surrender a degree of control over their work, so that hundreds of readers could buy their books at a decent price, a truly selfless act. As a translator I work with publishers on daily basis, and have to do my own battles with editors, but with a bit of mutual respect and good will it's not that painful. Even if Grub Street editors interfere with their authors' work, the end result is still top notch, so maybe that's the way to go. Otherwise everyone gets frustrated: the author because of only 300 copies sold, and readers because of high price.

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I really hate the attitude of "if you don't like it, write one yourself" as a response to basically legitimate criticism. To paraphrase the famous music critic Seppo Heikinheimo:"Can only cows tell whether milk is poor or not?" Next time any of you criticizes the price of petrol, think about refining it yourself.

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And if that had been the argument I was advancing, then perhaps you would have a point. I would simply urge anyone who regrets the absence of a book on a particular topic or at a particular price to consider the reasons why that book does not exist. The things that prevent you or from I writing it are probably the things that prevent others from doing so.

Even so, why not research and write something — article, book, whatever? It's fun to do (I think) and anyone can publish their work free on the web.

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As a matter of fact, I did publish (in my native language) dozens of articles on WWII aviation and quite a few booklets. Most of the latter ended up - like so many other books - pirated and uploaded on some file hosting websites, so yes, my work is up for grabs on the web, even if without my consent.

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Thanks again for your comments, much appreciated.

I’d just like to add that there is of course a world of difference between what I’d call ‘primary’ research - which my JG 4 and JG 2 works are - and other ‘cheaper’ works, essentially works of what I’d call ‘compilation’ – the fact of having to get out there on the ground, locate veterans and documents and create something entirely ‘new’ from the results of your research is a rather different type of work from a text created by taking elements already published and reassembling them.

It is the same with any branch of research – the latest paper announcing some advance in research knowledge will sell a handful of copies to those with a deep interest in the subject but take this work and paraphrase it in a scientific journal selling 50,000 copies at a very modest price and the result is the same – the data is out there but the means by which those discoveries are arrived at is not. Of course the scientist earns his income from that research – the historian in most cases is no more than a specialist ‘amateur’ enjoying little financial reward and only a limited readership worldwide. Put it another way, I could have written an Osprey or a Kagero (or whoever) on JG 2 or JG 5 or JG 4 for example – but chose instead to present in each case a multi-volume large format hardback series containing mostly original and unpublished personal accounts and photos. That is my ‘hobby’ and my passion.

This brings me back to a question that hasn’t yet received much of a response here - I presented earlier in this thread a moving and interesting letter from a deceased airman’s family that I thought added to the ‘story’ and situated the person in an historical context - this is the sort of ‘detail’ that I like to develop in my books. But of the few hundred enthusiasts who are interested in the topic how many are really interested in this sort of detail? Probably not a majority and thus most of the readers are happy with a 'compiled' book. The danger here is that eventually all original research will simply dry up and then there will be no new works – just endless compilations of texts and photos seen a thousand times previously – a phenomenon fairly current among aviation publishers it has to be said.

Talking of which - I’ve received a number of offers from publishers over the past few years - X number of words and photos for a nice fee on publication six months down the road. A money-making operation for the publisher. Nothing more. Up to now I’ve always declined this kind of proposition because what I do is essentially a hobby and not a source of income. Others have taken this route and are right to do so if that is what they want to do. I’m not going to criticise them for doing so - that’s not the point of what I’m saying. But yes, Lagarto, I could create a similar work of compilation, write it up quickly and throw in a few photos and then flog it cheaply, say $30 to $40. Only, if I’ve spent 20 years tracking down veterans and researching their stories and publishing for the first time I feel I’m justified in producing a work that adequately reflects the input that has gone into the work.

A final point raised here (and perhaps some-one who has seen JG 2/3 might care to comment...) – that of lay-out and design. I’ll be the first to admit that my expertise in this area is not perhaps the best – but then I know the text and the photos intimately. Far better than any publisher who might be working from a manuscript recently forwarded to him by his erstwhile author. I’d like to think that the reader gets a photo on the same page as the action/person to which it refers. Simple things like that, it seems to me, are worth far more than any fancy font or nice side-bars or inappropriate artworks, which very often serve only to increase the page count and nothing more.

Speak soon

Erik

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Mr Mombeeck, with all due respect... None of the books I have mentioned before - those by Donald Caldwell, Christopher Shores or Brian Cull - are cheaply flogged works of compilation, by God! Why haven't you mentioned these, only some booklets for modelers and Ospreys (which by the way cost about $15, so they're still a good value for money).
And as for the layout and design - if you choose a professional publishing house, then you can supervise all the work being done on your book, be it placing photos in the text or whatever. I've seen it happen many times. It's not like you give away your manuscript, and they abuse it as they want. Believe it or not, but good publishers want their authors to be happy with the end result, if only because they want more manuscripts from them.

Another example: 'The 5th Fighter Command in World War II Vol.2' by William Wolf, to be published soon, a 456-page hardback priced at $43.81. A 'cheap work of compilation', would you say?

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Lagarto, I consider Ospreys for $15 poor value for money as you can buy many Stackpole reprints 3-4 times the length for the same price.

Erik, I for one appreciate those details like the letter you quoted. I have heavily criticised a certain Finnish author's unit histories for lacking these kind of details, most of the text being in the style "...on 1854 hrs 12 planes took off...returned to base one hour later without losses".

As for "fancy" font, the fact is that for JG4/1 and JG/1 you chose Arial, a sans-serif font that is totally out of place in an expensive premium book. Arial is in fact often used for bloody school reports! I surely won't like to spend my entire monthly book budget on any book looking like a bloody school report, no way. Plus the largish font with largish spacing means that you are using more pages than necessary, and this hikes up production costs, storage costs (more space and weight) and shipping costs. By a quick estimate by a better layout the page count could have been easily shaved down by some 15-20 % with not insignificant cost savings.

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..I'm happy with my copy of 'Med Air War' - 500+pages for £26 courtesy of amazon, but, as noted, (re-)issued via a 'mainstream' publisher. However I think Mr Shores in his own Foreword notes that the first person accounts in the book are mostly (all?) extracted from previously published memoirs...nor would you buy that book for the photo content frankly ( although I guess you might have done 40 years ago!). But not to get into any polemic...I think the point that is being made is that the JG 4 (& JG 2) volumes would have looked a little thin had the author relied on published accounts....(and/or photos...)

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So would you accept Helvetica, Futura, Gill Sans, Univers, Johnston Underground, DIN 1451 — or have you cultivated a general aversion to sans serif fonts? Personally, I rather like them!

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No, I hate all sans-serif fonts. They simply look cheap (and scream "computer, computer"), are not readable to my eyes, and in general give me a headache. And quite interestingly, you are very unlikely to find sans-serif fonts used for the main text in books from 1980s or older. I never have encountered a single one, so I presume it is a very recent phenomenon invented by effing computer people. Another font which should be banned is Times New Roman.

The best fonts for serious books are e.g. Perpetua and Adobe Jenson Pro. Both are beautiful, curvaceous and readable. And economical.

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Hi,

Just come from Germany doing what you can guess (yes there are still veterans with documents and fantastic memories), and read your messages. Thanks for them.
I will reply in a laconic way because I think that that kind of polemic can be endless and I have no time for this. Lagarto, I haven't evoked Don, Chris or Brian' works because I simply can not evaluate the amount of primary sources published in their recent productions, if their books also contain dozens of new photos, details or accounts never published before etc. And I just want to stay in a general perspective.
Thank you for the example of William Wolf. Great if he can publish a fantastic book full of new documents and information for just $43.81. Anyway, we easily can find dozen of other great books for over $70. That is endless.
Thanks Nick, you do a fantastic work!
And finally, Jukka, you hate Arial. Sorry about that. My books are in Helvetica but I'll have a look on the Perpetua and Adobe Jenson Pro fonts.
JG 2/3 will now reach the first readers. We will maybe and hopefully, read here some comments on the book itself…?

Cheers

Erik

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I dislike Helvetica as well.

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Hi,

this message to inform you that Erik Mombeeck's excellent JG 2 volume 3 has been elected by Aeroforums (the most important French forum for aviation history ) "Coup de Coeur 2012" - "favorite book for 2012". It deserves it! Congratulations!

Phil.
See details on http://www.aerostories.org/~aerobiblio/article3878.html

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Congratulations - Bravo!

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I confirm ! I received the volume 3 next week ! A beautiful and amazing work !
Fred

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I agree - lovely selection of 'new' Fw 190 photos and chock full of rare personal accounts (French language)

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I agree to, it's a good work, with a very good writing, with new photographs for me and plenty of personal accounts.

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Hello,

I have a special offer for the TOCH members:
JG 2 vol. 1 in English for 34 Euros or 44 USD
JG 4 vol. 1 in English for 34 Euros or 44 USD
JG 4 vol. 2 in English for 34 Euros or 44 USD
+ shipping at a good price.

All 3 books for 100 Euros or 130 USD including postage.

Interested? Send me a message at hoves/a/telenet.be

You can discover the books on my web-site: www.luftwaffe.be

Erik Mombeeck


PS: sorry to announce you that the Special LuGa on JG 26 "The Abbeville Boys" is now sold out.

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Personally I would pay for the books. You pay for quality and good accurate info. Please release the books in English. Many thanks.