Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

hi there Gang,

I just ran in two interesting pictures taken at Linz Hörsching, in May 1945, by a crew member of the 8th AF:

http://forum.armyairforces.com/downl...?file=1;213290
Which possible unit for the Me 262? JV 44?

http://forum.armyairforces.com/downl...?file=0;212568
Ju 188 W.Nr. 230 459

Glad for any other information (unit?).

Thanks in advance
Marc

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Ju 188 D-2 Skz: VQ+PW.

Junker

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Thanks Junker!

Marc

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Mark,

Did you notices the "white?" X under the Me 262 tailplane?

Best regards,

Philippe

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Me 262 A, Werknummer 500531, with an interesting chessboard camouflage scheme.

This aircraft also carries on the port side a hand painted black cross on the lower part of the rudder. According to Mark Proulx, it was added by allied forces as an identifer for further examination.

More photographs can be found in Wings of Black Cross No. 8 by Mark Proulx and in EagleFiles #5 Stormbird Colors by Brett Green and Benjamin Evans. The latter also features a color profile of this aircraft.

Thanks for the link
ad astra

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Philippe,

Yes, if I understand things well, the "x" means the airframe was marked by US troops for scrapping.

Ad Astra,

Thanks for your detailed information! I just popped open WOTBC 8, and there it is on p. 15.

Thanks again to both
Marc

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Hello,

KG(J)6? Code number available?

Regards, Franck.

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Hello Ad Astra, Hello Marc,

I got two pictures from that Wings of Black Cross No. 8 book;

I'm not conviced at all by the "chessboard" presence on fuselage or it's just a way to talk about that "particular/unusual camouflage" as described in the said book.
So no KG(J) 6 at all for me.
Chessboard is quite well visible on other KG(J) 6 planes and well definite, even on blurred pictures.

By the way, we can see the same "unusual camouflage" on, at least, one of the Insbruck-Hötting Me262s.

.. And another picture of 500531, here under.

Last, "X" is white on one side and black on the other side ... Same plane?
Two paint tins and two brushes?

Regards, Franck.

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Hi there Franck,

Maybe it was yellow, and one of the pics was taken with an orthochromatic film?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

To be clear, of the three published photos of this jet in WOTBC#8, I make no mention of the unit assignment for this aircraft. I also don't state "particular/unusual camouflage". In addition, the term "chessboard" was not used in any of my captions.

To quote I state "unusual pattern" which by no means implies that it is unique and applied to only one aircraft.

Mark Proulx

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

FWIW, Me 262: The Production Log 1941-1945 identifies this aircraft as ex JV 44 with a red "X" applied to the tail. Crash landed at Linz on May 1, 1945.

Mark Proulx

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Hello,


Thanks Mark for these comments and Marc: So it wasn't an "ortho" film but a panchromatic film where Red appears white!

As for Chessboard; of course there is no such caption in your book I was talking about Astra comments and I said maybe he was refered to "chessboard like" camouflage.

As for "unusual camo" of course it wasn't the only one for a simple reason; This aspect was the result of rivet puttying and very thin paint coating as usual at the end.


Thanks anyway,

Regards, Franck.

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Love the me262 pic.

http://www.worldwarphotos.info/galle...zburg-austria/

at salzburg. looks like the same one.

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Yes Luftquest,

But it was at Linz, not at Salzburg.
Same site you quote is giving WNr.111857 at Munich when it was at Innsbruck-Hötting .

So better follow TOCH to get good answers :) and not necessarily mine :) :) !!!!

Regards, Franck.

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

The Teller mine atop of the starboard engine is a nice addition.

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Nice spotted SMF!!

Re: Two interesting pis from Linz Hörsching, May 1945
 

Which makes me wonder if that picture wasn't how they found it before dragging it outside. Notice the fuselage of the He.111 behind it, which is also in the other picture. An interesting series if you ask me.